'03 Malibu Response Trans Grinding/ Smoking

[tinag95]

Our '03 Response LX was running totally fine until until one day it started making an awful gear grinding noise when clicked into neutral/ reverse. No noise in forward gear & still ran properly, so kept going forward straight to take it out of the water. Clicked in reverse to stop for a couple seconds- no movement backwards, gear grinding noise and white smoke coming from the engine. Shut it off and pulled it and now waiting for the lake to unfreeze to have our dealer look at it ASAP. Any ideas as to what this could be and what it will cost to fix? 

[justgary]

9 minutes ago, tinag95 said:

Our '03 Response LX was running totally fine until until one day it started making an awful gear grinding noise when clicked into neutral/ reverse. No noise in forward gear & still ran properly, so kept going forward straight to take it out of the water. Clicked in reverse to stop for a couple seconds- no movement backwards, gear grinding noise and white smoke coming from the engine. Shut it off and pulled it and now waiting for the lake to unfreeze to have our dealer look at it ASAP. Any ideas as to what this could be and what it will cost to fix? 

When was the last time you change the transmission oil, and how did it look?  How does the oil look now?

[UWSkier]

check both cable ends for worn linkages.  It's possible the cable is not adjusted properly to give enough "throw" to the gear actuator on the transmission.

Though usually, that's not grinding.  You'll just hear a whine as surfaces aren't mated properly.  Grinding and smoke doesn't sound promising... Good luck!

[tinag95]

8 minutes ago, UWSkier said:

check both cable ends for worn linkages.  It's possible the cable is not adjusted properly to give enough "throw" to the gear actuator on the transmission.

Though usually, that's not grinding.  You'll just hear a whine as surfaces aren't mated properly.  Grinding and smoke doesn't sound promising... Good luck!

Thanks! Maybe helpful to note that when clicking into neutral/ reverse, the grinding sounds happens for about 2 seconds and then stops. Wish it would let me post the video I have on here. 

[UWSkier]

1 hour ago, tinag95 said:

Thanks! Maybe helpful to note that when clicking into neutral/ reverse, the grinding sounds happens for about 2 seconds and then stops. Wish it would let me post the video I have on here. 

can post to youtube and link to here.

[tinag95]

10 hours ago, justgary said:

When was the last time you change the transmission oil, and how did it look?  How does the oil look now?

Oil regularly changed, red color, at the proper level. Doesn’t seem to be the issue. 

[tinag95]

6 hours ago, UWSkier said:

can post to youtube and link to here.

Here it is... that is when going into neutral. same with reverse. started smoking white smoke when i held in reverse. totally fine in forward gear.

 

[electricjohn]

I'm only seeing a 3 second video.

[tinag95]

11 hours ago, electricjohn said:

I'm only seeing a 3 second video.

It's short, but shows the grinding noise fully. Didn't want to do it more than I needed to. 

[csleaver]

The entire pinion Carrier is locked and rotating when in forward, the inner gears only rotate when in reverse.  Transmission gear noise will not happen in forward because the transmission gears 
only spin in reverse.  The most common cause of grinding noise when in reverse is caused by damaged gears.

[electricjohn]

10 hours ago, tinag95 said:

It's short, but shows the grinding noise fully. Didn't want to do it more than I needed to. 

OK, got it now. Initially thought your were going to pop the clamshell open.