Grand Wagoneer vs RAM 1500

[RyanB]

LWB model has been spied. Speculation is that it will be available in Q3 with the new I6 turbo engine. 
 

That’s worth the wait for me.

[JeffK]

On 1/26/2022 at 8:00 PM, RyanB said:

LWB

LWB?  

Also, were you able to confirm anything around the towing capacity on your side?  I am about to start a thread asking if there is any real world experience towing the 25 with the newer Tahoe/Suburban's and/or the grand wagoneer.

[oldjeep]

Long wheelbase

[JeffK]

4 minutes ago, oldjeep said:

Long wheelbase

Thank you.  I thought he was talking about a specific model and it was a model abbreviation.  I couldn't make the connection.

[RyanB]

20 minutes ago, JeffK said:

LWB?  

Also, were you able to confirm anything around the towing capacity on your side?  I am about to start a thread asking if there is any real world experience towing the 25 with the newer Tahoe/Suburban's and/or the grand wagoneer.

I haven’t done any more research on WDH recommendations. Personally, I would trust what is in the owners manual more than what I would a dealer employee, so I’m ok with what I’ve found so far. And I honestly am not concerned about WDH with my 7000 pound boat. Others may feel differently. 
 

I will order a long wheel base Wagoneer or GW as soon as they are available.  Happy to give you a report when I’m able to take delivery, but that’s certainly several months off.  

[JeffK]

1 minute ago, RyanB said:

I haven’t done any more research on WDH recommendations. Personally, I would trust what is in the owners manual more than what I would a dealer employee, so I’m ok with what I’ve found so far. And I honestly am not concerned about WDH with my 7000 pound boat. Others may feel differently. 
 

I will order a long wheel base Wagoneer or GW as soon as they are available.  Happy to give you a report when I’m able to take delivery, but that’s certainly several months off.  

That would be great!  Would love to know what you think

[jjackkrash]

The new Sequioa's just dropped and it looks like they only come with the big-torque hybrid engines.  They may be worth a look.  Next years Caddies are also coming in a "V" version with over 600 HP but anybodies' guess on how redonkulous the price will be.   

[Txstoj]

So disappointed the sequoia is not coming out with an extended version to compete with the domestics.  

[UWSkier]

Jeep really missed the mark with this new Grand Wagoneer by having a few hundred pounds less payload than the Suburban/Tahoe and Expedition.  1450 lbs of payload gets eaten up quick by a family of 5 each bringing 20 lbs of stuff with them.  They didn't leave a lot of room for tongue weight.

[gregtay]

On 1/18/2022 at 11:21 AM, RyanB said:

I think it’s about $30k. 

Yeah, I’m not a Chevy guy. And certainly NOT a Cadillac guy. The only thing that would make me think about going that way would be the 3.0 diesel, and that isn’t enough of a draw for me. The Caddy is a hard pass in my household. 

That was my position... hell no, I will never own a GM product... certainly not a Cadillac... and NEVER an Escalade.  Well.. one year into owning my '21 Escalade Duramax.... I could not be happier and there isn't another vehicle out there that I would trade it in for today.  We are super happy with this thing. Still a little embarrassed to pull into the Caddy dealer for service (only been once for a simple oil change.)  Been flawless. Awesome to drive around town and pulls strong on the way to the lake.