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jackofsometrade

Slow Turning BU

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jackofsometrade

I have a 2006 23 LSV. My previous boat was a Centurion direct drive, and it turned very sharp in both directions. My Malibu turns very slowly to the left, so slow that while turning around to pickup a rider I simply run circles around them. Turning to the right is sharp like I would expect. Is this normal or do I have an issue I need to address?

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Raimie

Direct drives are far more responsive than vdrives. Weight, beam, draft will all play into that.

As for picking up your rider... try approaching them on the right. You can see them so it's safer and the right turn is sharper (I believe prop rotation is a factor in this).

You may need to make an adjustment on your rudder as well.

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ahopkinsVTX

Have you looked at the boat out of the water to make sure there is nothing wrong with the rudder and that it turns the same amount in each direction?

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REHinH20

There are many notes about turning on this site, many deal with turning while weighted for surfing (extra weight makes it even more difficult to maneuver) The best way is to pull throttle to neutral, let the rollers go out past the boat, and turn around below wake speed. This gives you better control, and also doesn't throw a roller out towards other boaters. Imagine if everyone turned like this how much smoother most water would be!

Of course there are instances where the water is crowded, and you need to get back to your fallen rider asap, and this method will not work best.

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oldjeep

Silly question, but - turning to pick up rider. Is your rider a surfer? And if they are, is your boat listed, or have a surfgate type device hanging out on one side?

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jackofsometrade

It's more an issue when surfing. I always turn to whichever side the wave is smaller on, then loop back as a figure 8 so the rider is always on the drivers side.

Thanks ahopkinstxi I don't know why I didn't think to check the rudder travel. I checked it this morning and it turns much further to the right than the left. I am guessing a botched cable replacement job. I can see that the sleeve near the rudder needs to be adjusted to give more travel to the left side.

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Malibuzer

Wow, quite a difference!

Let us know how the fix goes.

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Michigan boarder

Check the tiller arm, which it is an arm that connects your steering cable to the top of the rudder. It sticks out a few inches to the side, there is a chance that something got trapped back there and is blocking the tiller arm from traveling the full distance in that direction.

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ahopkinsVTX

Whelp, there's your problem!

And I am sorry, I am just a problem finder at this point. Not sure where to look from there but the above suggestions sound good!

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ibelonginprison

a little off subject, but I also do a figure 8. I was thinking about it the other day, wondering why it feels so much more natural to me to turn left initially, come back across and put the rider on my starboard (driver) side, and either button hook around them in a 180 and head in the same direction as before, or stay on course and back in the opposite direction.

So after analyzing it, my mirror is to my left, so I found that I drive with my chair turned ever so slightly to the left to watch my rider, and communicate with my spotter. So when my rider falls, I come off throttle and dip to the left to start a slow rotation while the rollers pass, because I have a better field of view to the left already, than I do the right.

Still - I was going to force myself to "turn right" a few times this weekend and try it that way and see if it was more effective or if I could get comfortable with it. Obviously, less turns that way. ha

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Pnwrider

a little off subject, but I also do a figure 8. I was thinking about it the other day, wondering why it feels so much more natural to me to turn left initially, come back across and put the rider on my starboard (driver) side, and either button hook around them in a 180 and head in the same direction as before, or stay on course and back in the opposite direction.

So after analyzing it, my mirror is to my left, so I found that I drive with my chair turned ever so slightly to the left to watch my rider, and communicate with my spotter. So when my rider falls, I come off throttle and dip to the left to start a slow rotation while the rollers pass, because I have a better field of view to the left already, than I do the right.

Still - I was going to force myself to "turn right" a few times this weekend and try it that way and see if it was more effective or if I could get comfortable with it. Obviously, less turns that way. ha

Time to change your name to zoolander.

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ibelonginprison

well, to be fair... there IS more to being a male model than being really, really, really, really ridiculously good looking.

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tvano

not sure if this issue is isolated to certain models but if the rudder gets mis-aligned too much it can get sucked into the prop when you back down with authority.

maybe others can help out here

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jackofsometrade

I will check first to make sure nothing is impeeding travel but I am fairly certain the centerness of the cable in the block is my issue. These pictures are not of my boat just some I found online. I will take a pic of mine when I get a minute to adjust it. On my boat the block holding the threaded part of the cable is not centered. It makes sense to me that would make it turn further one direction than the other. Hopfully will make my wheel straight while driving too. I could be totatly wrong, but that is the first thing I am going to try.

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Sunscape fan

a little off subject, but I also do a figure 8. I was thinking about it the other day, wondering why it feels so much more natural to me to turn left initially, come back across and put the rider on my starboard (driver) side, and either button hook around them in a 180 and head in the same direction as before, or stay on course and back in the opposite direction.

So after analyzing it, my mirror is to my left, so I found that I drive with my chair turned ever so slightly to the left to watch my rider, and communicate with my spotter. So when my rider falls, I come off throttle and dip to the left to start a slow rotation while the rollers pass, because I have a better field of view to the left already, than I do the right.

Still - I was going to force myself to "turn right" a few times this weekend and try it that way and see if it was more effective or if I could get comfortable with it. Obviously, less turns that way. ha

Do you happen to be a NASCAR fan? :)

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ibelonginprison

Do you happen to be a NASCAR fan? :)

GODALE! lmao

But seriously... not really, no.

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jackofsometrade

I'm not a NASCAR fan but I love some figure 8 racing. :clap:

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ibelonginprison

I like autox... maybe that's why I swerve in a figure 8.

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Baddog

The root cause of your issue may be that the tiller arm was placed onto the rudder spindle one or two splines too far to one side. Easy fix though.

Alternatively, next time out, make sure to actually separate your trailer from the boat before getting under way. It'll turn better both directions AND go faster. You are not blond by any chance . . . .?

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oldjeep

I thought the rudder spindles were keyed, not splined?

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Baddog

^^^ ICBW, but for it to be that far off something has to be way out of kilter. Broken key??

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jackofsometrade

Mine is keyed so it would be hard to mess up. I am fairly confident that moving the cable block is all I need to do. Haven't had time to make the repair. Hopefully this weekend.

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Rbonnett

I have the same problem, only to the opposite side. Real PITA to get to however. Either have to raise the motor or remove the alternator, and SB heat exchanger (2001 23' LSV). Searched and searched for information and pictures on the all knowing web without much luck. Hopefully someone here can help.

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