Direct injection motor available in the 19 LSV?

[NAW]

If you custom built a 24MXZ or 25LSV today, the standard engine is the M6DI.  Optional 555 PCM LSA.  I think all the data will drop in the next day or so.

You may or may not be able to ask nicely and get the M6DI in a 23LSV.

[bubonic]

On 9/4/2018 at 10:27 AM, CJAY said:

60 hours of use is almost 1/3rd of what we do in a season, and I'm betting we are able to find more issues with our boats due to it.  If you're only worried about 60 hours you're not near as worried as someone who's looking to put 500-1000 hours on their boats about how an engine will perform over the long haul.  60 hours may not even be close to enough to find those issues.  Get off your high horse.  

I'm not your bud....Anybody can you're right, but not everyone wants to.  I prefer to get and keep a boat, hence why I'd rather see how something performs over a longer period of time before buying into it.  I hate the first year breaking in a boat and learning it, I prefer to have it dialed in and most of the bugs worked out, which is usually done by mid second season.  My view of a product is long term, yours is for a short "60 hour" season.  We see these things form two different perspectives, neither right nor wrong, just different.  

I just know what I've been told from reliable sources

CJAY I read your posts and I think it's funny how you know so much cause I have first hand knowledge of the lawsuit. Malibu wanted to buy MP and the terms could not be met so they cancelled the PO for spite due to MP wouldn't play their game. They wanted vertical integration at any cost. There are 8 known issues of MP failures out of the 430 units sold to Malibu and some of those issues were due to the water ingestion coming from the engine cover letting water drip into the intake and that was another lawsuit MP won outside of the main lawsuit. So that is two lawsuits that MP won against some company crying wolf. 

[Brianborder]

 Anybody have horsepower and torque specs on the M6DI motor? 

[ID AX]

15 hours ago, Brianborder said:

 Anybody have horsepower and torque specs on the M6DI motor? 

I found this awhile back but haven’t seen anything since to confirm

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/cert/eo/2019/sime/u-w-034-0004.pdf

[ConnollyCrew]

On ‎8‎/‎25‎/‎2018 at 8:32 PM, Cazan said:

This will be a Malibu built engine correct?  Not Indmar?

Yes, that is correct. The M series engines will be in ALL Malibu models by the end of 18' model year, and Axis in 20' models

[ConnollyCrew]

16 hours ago, Brianborder said:

 Anybody have horsepower and torque specs on the M6DI motor? 

Almost identical specs as the Ford platform. It is lightyears quitter and much more efficient.

[Brianborder]

 Still haven’t seen a torque rating surface.     I had heard that it was a very similar copy to the PCM H6DI motor which is rated at 450 hp and 465 foot pounds.   I was hoping for similar performance figures from the Malibu motor 

Edited October 26, 2018 by Brianborder

[KJKimball]

Here is the carb official data submitted by each engine marinizer converted to standard units instead of metric. 

Pcm H6 6.2L DI is 396hp @ 5600rpm 460ft-lb torque@4100 rpm. Malibu M6 6.2L DI is shown at 409hp but doesn’t show @what rpm or the torque. Ilmor and Volvo 6.2LDI are shown at 436hp which looks to be the strongest of all the 6.2L gen V DI marine Inboard offerings.

[Nitrousbird]

1 minute ago, KJKimball said:

Here is the carb official data submitted by each engine marinizer converted to standard units instead of metric. 

Pcm H6 6.2L DI is 396hp @ 5600rpm 460ft-lb torque@4100 rpm. Malibu M6 6.2L DI is shown at 409hp but doesn’t show @what rpm or the torque. Ilmor and Volvo 6.2LDI are shown at 436hp which looks to be the strongest of all the 6.2L gen V DI marine Inboard offerings.

I hope you don't actually believe those numbers mean anything other than each company had to submit some kind of number to CARB.  That's not a dig at any company at all - the numbers are meaningless across the board.

[KJKimball]

They are the actual data each company submits as the official output of the engine. To submit false data, low or high, can result in fines of $43,500 per engine. Think Volkswagen. The carb data is collected in certified test lab conditions on certified test fuel with no ethanol. These are the only numbers to believe. 

[MadMan]

5 hours ago, ID AX said:

I found this awhile back but haven’t seen anything since to confirm

https://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/cert/eo/2019/sime/u-w-034-0004.pdf

Interesting, never really looked at this before.  Marine engines emissions allowed are directly related to the power of the engine, they're specified in g/kW-hr.  If you have an engine that produces twice the power of someone else's, you're allowed to emit twice the emissions.

[IXFE]

Talked to my dealer today who just returned from the dealer meeting... looks like the M5DI is NOW available as an upgrade to the base 6.0L Monsoon 410 in remaining 2019 builds. MSRP for the upgrade is $1,800

In 2020 it will be the base engine all the way up to the 23 LSV.