M235 2017 seriously electrical failure

[MLA]

11 hours ago, system55 said:

But still the factory speakers are junk.

No, they are not junk, they are just not what was right for you. The Icon-8 is a traditional coaxial speaker and the HLCD rev-8 is the high performance model, Like a Cadillac sedan, but what you wanted was the 2 door ATS coupe.

 

 

 

[Fman]

4 hours ago, MLA said:

No, they are not junk, they are just not what was right for you. The Icon-8 is a traditional coaxial speaker and the HLCD rev-8 is the high performance model, Like a Cadillac sedan, but what you wanted was the 2 door ATS coupe.

 

 

 

What seems odd to me is I ran the Exile Xm9s on my last boat and now am using there Surf 9 co-ax.  I actually think I like the co-ax better than the HLCD.  I would assume Wetsounds would be similar in these findings that both can sound excellent.

[system55]

6 hours ago, Fman said:

What seems odd to me is I ran the Exile Xm9s on my last boat and now am using there Surf 9 co-ax.  I actually think I like the co-ax better than the HLCD.  I would assume Wetsounds would be similar in these findings that both can sound excellent.

 

10 hours ago, MLA said:

No, they are not junk, they are just not what was right for you. The Icon-8 is a traditional coaxial speaker and the HLCD rev-8 is the high performance model, Like a Cadillac sedan, but what you wanted was the 2 door ATS coupe.

 

 

 

well, in a 230,000 boat the speakers should be ultraperformance speakers dont you think ? I dont think Ferrari install regular speakers on their cars

[oldjeep]

Just now, system55 said:

 

well, in a 230,000 boat the speakers should be ultraperformance speakers dont you think ? I dont think Ferrari install regular speakers on their cars

$230,000?  DO you have 2 of them?

[23LSVOwner]

1 hour ago, system55 said:

 

well, in a 230,000 boat the speakers should be ultraperformance speakers dont you think ? I dont think Ferrari install regular speakers on their cars

From my understanding they were standard at 1st as the only choice was for the coat to be completly loaded. People wanted to deoption the boat to make it cheaper so the ability to do so was added.

[Suggy]

1 hour ago, oldjeep said:

$230,000?  DO you have 2 of them?

$230k is MSRP on them, but they go for under $200k.

[oldjeep]

2 minutes ago, Suggy said:

$230k is MSRP on them, but they go for under $200k.

Guess they must depreciate like crazy.  All the ones that are for sale used are in the $135 range

http://www.boats.com/power-boats/2017-malibu-m235-6233201/#.WUFFq-TruUk

 

[MLA]

6 hours ago, Fman said:

What seems odd to me is I ran the Exile Xm9s on my last boat and now am using there Surf 9 co-ax.  I actually think I like the co-ax better than the HLCD.  I would assume Wetsounds would be similar in these findings that both can sound excellent.

 

This is where personal taste and listening goals come into play. There is no quality difference between the speakers. Both are built with top quality components and the same integrity and attention to detail. 

1 hour ago, system55 said:

 

well, in a 230,000 boat the speakers should be ultraperformance speakers dont you think ? I dont think Ferrari install regular speakers on their cars

Well, if my goal is near field sound quality for surfing and sand bar type listening, I prefer the 8" coaxial over an 8" HLCD. Again, its about proper speaker for the job.

So, how well does your Ferrari tow your MXZ? I mean for a 230K car, it should be able to to a 53' semi trailer, right? They dont put just regular engines in them you know.  

[kerpluxal]

3 hours ago, system55 said:

 

well, in a 230,000 boat the speakers should be ultraperformance speakers dont you think ? I dont think Ferrari install regular speakers on their cars

Well... at a $550,000 price tag.. this Ferrari does not have a stereo at all

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/ferraris-new-550000-supercar-without-a-radio-20131203-2ynxx.html

Really.. cheap wetsounds.. the Icons are cheaper than the Rev but is not due to sound quality... Revs are HCLD speakers can be harsh to the ears with the highs they put out... ie surf zone and cabin of boat. They are intended for projecting the sound back way back behind the boat wakeboard zone.. Icons have more mid bass, great for surfing or cabin listening.

It comes down to what the consumer wants and there is option for either style of listening. Just because an Icon is cheaper in price to a Rev does not make it a cheap quality speaker. There is only ~300.00 dollars price differentiation between them (Icons 750.00 Revs 1049.00).

If you really want the best.. why not get Rev 10s?

[kerpluxal]

1 hour ago, oldjeep said:

Guess they must depreciate like crazy.  All the ones that are for sale used are in the $135 range

http://www.boats.com/power-boats/2017-malibu-m235-6233201/#.WUFFq-TruUk

 

I see and here this all the time lately.. my $250,000 boat... if he paid that he got screwed. my dealer offered me new at $165,000... msrp is $230,000... now you can argue the taxes as being part of the deal.. but I don't agree with that argument because taxes are different everywhere.

I guess it makes them feel special when they say that they pay msrp 

[system55]

1 hour ago, kerpluxal said:

I see and here this all the time lately.. my $250,000 boat... if he paid that he got screwed. my dealer offered me new at $165,000... msrp is $230,000... now you can argue the taxes as being part of the deal.. but I don't agree with that argument because taxes are different everywhere.

I guess it makes them feel special when they say that they pay msrp 

I am in Mexico, here everything is more expensive

[system55]

1 hour ago, kerpluxal said:

Well... at a $550,000 price tag.. this Ferrari does not have a stereo at all

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/ferraris-new-550000-supercar-without-a-radio-20131203-2ynxx.html

Really.. cheap wetsounds.. the Icons are cheaper than the Rev but is not due to sound quality... Revs are HCLD speakers can be harsh to the ears with the highs they put out... ie surf zone and cabin of boat. They are intended for projecting the sound back way back behind the boat wakeboard zone.. Icons have more mid bass, great for surfing or cabin listening.

It comes down to what the consumer wants and there is option for either style of listening. Just because an Icon is cheaper in price to a Rev does not make it a cheap quality speaker. There is only ~300.00 dollars price differentiation between them (Icons 750.00 Revs 1049.00).

If you really want the best.. why not get Rev 10s?

you have to make new holes in the tower to locate them,  I dont want to make more holes

[spikew919]

On 6/13/2017 at 7:17 PM, hethj7 said:

I would have assumed the M235 came with the Rev 8's but I guess you can get Icons as well. 

I'm actually thinking they only offer the icons on the M. Got my dealer checking due to that's what my boat ended up with but was supposed to be rev8's 

[shadetreefab]

On 6/14/2017 at 8:57 AM, kerpluxal said:

Well... at a $550,000 price tag.. this Ferrari does not have a stereo at all

http://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/ferraris-new-550000-supercar-without-a-radio-20131203-2ynxx.html

 

It dose make music, it's just controlled by pedal instead of a nob

[kerpluxal]

7 hours ago, shadetreefab said:

It dose make music, it's just controlled by pedal instead of a nob

And that is a beautiful note too...