M235 - G Killer?

[thtrog]

Can we pull an INT comp with it? Haha

Tractor Pull, I'll see what I can do!

[saidainc]

Emailed a friend of mine who is a dealer and he said that the info is leaked but the price point will be higher (with more options) than the G23. Maybe he was referring to the YETI?

Edited October 22, 2015 by saidainc

[JoeA]

If Malibu is going after the G it will be interesting to see if the market will be willing to pay more for this boat. Cant wait to see the true details and capabilities of this boat.

[saxton15]

Above a G23/25, we're talking Pavati numbers....

[saidainc]

People will be paying 200K plus by 2018. Mark my words.

[tn_rider]

People will be paying 200K plus by 2018. Mark my words.

The bubble will pop when it gets there. Mark my words

[saidainc]

The bubble will pop when it gets there. Mark my words

If we have a recession, yes. If not they will pay it. These are luxury items and as long as banks will loan on them, people will pay just about anything.

[TallRedRider]

Emailed a friend of mine who is a dealer and he said that the info is leaked but the price point will be higher (with more options) than the G23. Maybe he was referring to the YETI?

Is my perspective off that MC is still generally more expensive than Nautique and Malibu? I think it would be an X23 slayer for sure if it comes under that price. So would it become the most expensive towboat? I don't really even count Pavati.

As said above, it seems that once you get to this price range, money is not an issue.

[OxDoc]

The mastercraft x23 is more expensive than the G23 in my neck of the woods. I just demoed and got quotes on them both last weekend. Difference of about $5,000.

[saxton15]

The MC X26 or shall we call it "Surf yacht" must be pushing 200K easily.

[CJAY]

If we have a recession, yes. If not they will pay it. These are luxury items and as long as banks will loan on them, people will pay just about anything.

It's not so much if but when, it's cyclical. Yes the bubble will pop, and odds are it will be in the next few years

[TenTwentyOne]

The mastercraft x23 is more expensive than the G23 in my neck of the woods. I just demoed and got quotes on them both last weekend. Difference of about $5,000.

But on an MSRP basis on equally equipped boats, the G23 is more money. If dealer discounts are the same on the 2, the X23 is 10-15k cheaper equally equipped.

[Afun]

The bubble will pop when it gets there. Mark my words

I'm already being told by a S. Florida builder that it's coming all over again. The saturation of empty condos are gaining steam. Work force participation rate....low. We are teetering.

[ac88926]

Although it wont sell for this, itll be right at 200k msrp on the M235 I bet. This boat seems to be designed for those folks that want the biggest, baddest, most expensive boat on the water. Same folks that will prob use it as a pontoon boat or to pull toooooobs

Edited October 22, 2015 by ac88926

[tn_rider]

I'm already being told by a S. Florida builder that it's coming all over again. The saturation of empty condos are gaining steam. Work force participation rate....low. We are teetering.

Which is where I capitalize. I wholesale real estate. So I love to see foreclosures. The problem will be finding flippers when the economy is sooooo bad.

[saidainc]

Although it wont sell for this, itll be right at 200k msrp on the M235 I bet. This boat seems to be designed for those folks that want the biggest, baddest, most expensive boat on the water. Same folks that will prob use it as a pontoon boat or to pull toooooobs

No toobs behind that boat or someone will get shot

[OxDoc]

But on an MSRP basis on equally equipped boats, the G23 is more money. If dealer discounts are the same on the 2, the X23 is 10-15k cheaper equally equipped.

The base MSRP of the x23 doesn't include the surf and convience package or the 6.2 engine upgrade that you will need for this boat. Optioned out equally the x23 the was more expensive even though the dealer was giving me 23 percent off MSRP and the Nautique dealer is giving me 19 percent off MSRP.

Edited October 22, 2015 by OxDoc

[That Guy]

^^^Wow 23% off msrp! Nice negotiating.

[OxDoc]

Hard to find two better guys than the owners of Cincy Mastercraft.

[TenTwentyOne]

The base MSRP of the x23 doesn't include the surf and convience package or the 6.2 engine upgrade that you will need for this boat. Optioned out equally the x23 the was more expensive even though the dealer was giving me 23 percent off MSRP and the Nautique dealer is giving me 19 percent off MSRP.

I'll have time to get to this later. I have all the build sheets at home. I have purchased both of the boats in question and have a very good handle on costs of them.

[TallRedRider]

A guy on Planet Nautique said the boat was 7,000 pounds dry weight and 3,000 pounds of ballast. Did I miss that post here? He said that he got the information here. I am not going to read all 5 pages again.

I find 7K dry weight very hard to believe, when a G runs 5900 now for 2016.

[TenTwentyOne]

The base MSRP of the x23 doesn't include the surf and convience package or the 6.2 engine upgrade that you will need for this boat. Optioned out equally the x23 the was more expensive even though the dealer was giving me 23 percent off MSRP and the Nautique dealer is giving me 19 percent off MSRP.

Ok. Found everything in my email....

Base G23- $136,761.00

Base X23- $113,490.00

Now, in order for the X23 to be equal in base form, it needs premium audio and touchscreen package ($6700.00), and Gen2 surf ($5320.00)

Total with options to equal the G standard features- $125,510.00

Now we can add the bigger engines....

X23 + 6.2l ($10,430.00) $135,940

G23 + 6.2l ($6800.00) $143,561

You mentioned surf and convenience package on the MC..... Well, that includes a bunch of stuff that you can't get on a G23. The only things left that aren't already on this build is the Bimini and boat cover.....

X23 + Bimini ($1080.00) and cover ($1100.00). It is now up to $138,120.00

G23 + Bimini ($3650.00) and cover ($1103.00). It is now up to $148,314.00

What else can we put in the G and X23...... Tower speakers?

X23 + 4 JL 7.7 cans including amp ($3020.00) now up to $141,140.00

G23 + 4 JL 7.7 cans ($3954.00) plus you need tower prep kit ($1199.00) now up to $153,467.00

Most of the other options are about the same cost, and this leaves out the design pack for the G which is about 4K, and leaves out the upgraded tower option on the MC which is about 5k but has clamping racks and the option for quad racks. Neither can be ordered on the G23. You can however order PTM racks and adapters from Roswell to put them on. You will spend 4K for that, so it is essentially a wash on those.

Another thing to consider is there are a lot more options available on the MC that you can't get on the G. It will add up, and you can get the prices up about the same, but that won't be equally optioned comparisons. If you fully load a G, and then put the same options on an X23, the X23 will have a lower MSRP by about 8-15k.... All of these numbers are pulled directly from 2016 price lists for these two boats.

Edited October 22, 2015 by TenTwentyOne

[IXFE]

^^^ That's good data, thanks for sharing.

[saxton15]

1021, what are some examples of upgrades you can get on the MC and not on the G?

[Anderson24]

1021, what are some examples of upgrades you can get on the MC and not on the G?

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