M235 - G Killer?

[DarkSide]

I have Wakesurfed enough to know that bigger doesn't necessarily mean that it's better. Do you agree?

To a certain extent yes, a good smaller wave is better than a crappy big wave.

But a good big wave is more fun than a good small wave. It is easier to drift back, having enough wave for 3-4 big pumps before your launch. So all things equal bigger is better. If it wasn't wake makers would be out of business.

[DarkSide]

M235 wave vs. (my respectable) T22 wave

I am 6'7" for reference. Obviously I can't get down in a kneeling position like the other rider...but still...that wave is huge!

I agree huge wave on the M235 here is what I have that is similar. (25' rope Rider is 5' 10) on the M235 the wave is a few inches above the riders head. Here the wave is below the head

Edited November 10, 2015 by DarkSide

[Bill_AirJunky]

Honest ?

Is the wake behind that paddle wheeler really bigger than the posted pictures of the M235's wake?

OMyGawd, there are groups of surfers in cities like Seattle, Vancouver & Houston who keep track of the big boat schedules just so they can plan on being in the area when that paddleboat, barge or ship wake comes rollin thru. Tons of Youtube videos on it.

[Anderson24]

I have Wakesurfed enough to know that bigger doesn't necessarily mean that it's better. Do you agree?

For sure agree. Like Darkside said...you can have a crappy big wave. Also, certain tricks/riding styles can be achieved with certain styles of waves. One thing we are seeing here...is the ability to throw a massive port wave with a heavy curl. Haven't seen that yet out of a Malibu/axis. I am sure with all of the adjustability of the wedge/ballast/speed you can achieve a much longer, flatter wave. It is just opening new doors to riders.

However, my wave was 1/3 the cost ?. I don't think the m235 wave is THAT much more fun. I am just waiting for DarkSide to get wave envy...trade his Silver Surfer in...and go with the big dog m235. That's my game plan...

[DarkSide]

For sure agree. Like Darkside said...you can have a crappy big wave. Also, certain tricks/riding styles can be achieved with certain styles of waves. One thing we are seeing here...is the ability to throw a massive port wave with a heavy curl. Haven't seen that yet out of a Malibu/axis. I am sure with all of the adjustability of the wedge/ballast/speed you can achieve a much longer, flatter wave. It is just opening new doors to riders.

However, my wave was 1/3 the cost . I don't think the m235 wave is THAT much more fun. I am just waiting for DarkSide to get wave envy...trade his Silver Surfer in...and go with the big dog m235. That's my game plan...

If I surfed the wrong side I would consider it, but the RIGHT side doesn't look night and day better, like the port side does.

Also pretty sure the divorce attorney would make me sell it if I did buy it. LOL.

Edited November 10, 2015 by DarkSide

[JoeA]

For sure agree. Like Darkside said...you can have a crappy big wave. Also, certain tricks/riding styles can be achieved with certain styles of waves. One thing we are seeing here...is the ability to throw a massive port wave with a heavy curl. Haven't seen that yet out of a Malibu/axis. I am sure with all of the adjustability of the wedge/ballast/speed you can achieve a much longer, flatter wave. It is just opening new doors to riders.

Is there any chance that Malibu is offering a tranny that spins the opposite direction so the port side is better than starboard?

[tn_rider]

An amazing option would be a tranny that's reversible at the push of a button. Surf right selected tranny spins the direction to optimize the wave, then spin the other direction for the other side.

[DarkSide]

Was talking to my dealer last week who said this boat may have a new bigger power wedge, funnily enough called pw3.

Oh and expected price for this beast in Australia is well over 200k, a fully loaded 25LSV goes for over 230k so I'm betting a M235 will be 250k+

This could explain the barrel on port. I know PW2 made a significant difference over PW1

[MadMan]

An amazing option would be a tranny that's reversible at the push of a button. Surf right selected tranny spins the direction to optimize the wave, then spin the other direction for the other side.

The would be the easy part, the hard part would be the prop having to change from left hand to right hand.

[boardjnky4]

An amazing option would be a tranny that's reversible at the push of a button. Surf right selected tranny spins the direction to optimize the wave, then spin the other direction for the other side.

Every boat has that feature. It's called reverse. Only problem is that it makes the boat travel in the wrong direction.

[teamerickson]

I bet this is a twin engine.

[tn_rider]

The would be the easy part, the hard part would be the prop having to change from left hand to right hand.

Yeah, I had one too many drinks last night ?

[Diesel86]

This could explain the barrel on port. I know PW2 made a significant difference over PW1

Pretty my dealer was just speculating, but the surf gates look bigger so it wouldn't surprise me if the power wedge was too

Edited November 10, 2015 by Diesel86

[23LSVOwner]

I bet this is a twin engine.

Nope.

[saxton15]

Would bigger gates equal a bigger curl?

[ahopkins22LSV]

^^

I imagine they needed bigger gates on this boat due to the increased freeboard. Just as the gate sizes range from the VTX to LSV.

[67King]

^^

I imagine they needed bigger gates on this boat due to the increased freeboard. Just as the gate sizes range from the VTX to LSV.

Yeah, I was thinking that I may be going out on a limb here, but I'm betting that the bigger boat is the driver for the bigger wave. And the bigger PW. And the bigger gates.

[RedOwl]

Absolutely. Paddle boat wakes are MASSIVE. Bigger than a loaded barge wake.

Thanks! You learn something new every day...

[bamabonners]

You guys must get different paddle wheels in your area. On the TN River, they don't have big wakes. The flat nosed barges do, but only if they are heavily weighted.

[tn_rider]

You guys must get different paddle wheels in your area. On the TN River, they don't have big wakes. The flat nosed barges do, but only if they are heavily weighted.

I live on Ky lake/ Tn River. The Mississippi queen has the biggest wake I've seen on the river yet. It was mind blowing.

[Pnwrider]

Ran into a paddle wheel boat on the snake river once. Some of the biggest rollers I've seen on a lake/river and they were non stop for 5 or 10 minutes after it went by. I literally parked the boat and just floated until the passed.

[bamabonners]

dang... I'll keep a look out. I had no idea.

I love when the 30 something foot cruisers go by half on plane. LOL

[IXFE]

Paddle boats, huh...?

I think this might be rock bottom.

[saxton15]

One more day and this thread can get back on track. First we hate it, then we all love it.

[malibudog]

Just making sure I understand the program. Is it:

First we hate it. Then we love it. Then we complain about how much it costs. Then we revert to talking about paddleboats and financing. Then someone asks if Chee still does upholstery on Ford f150's.