Why 2016 Wakesetter LSV over MC X30

[ibelonginprison]

Would use up entirely too much of my adult beverage storage!

lol

Touche.

[Zac]

My only complaint about the 2016 25 LSV is the Igloo cooler with the Malibu logo doesn't have a built in drain!

#majordesignflaw

[Chrisjjbrown]

WOW this was intense.

[mrnate450r]

Just asking because it seems to be the hot topic here. Has anybody seen a hull failure on either? Even on the top deck where the tower mounts?

[Malibuzer]

Just asking because it seems to be the hot topic here. Has anybody seen a hull failure on either? Even on the top deck where the tower mounts?

It depends on what you call a hull failure. A guy we spend a lot of time with has a Mastercraft X7 and the whole side (both sides) spider cracked so bad it was unreal. It took a couple of years but Mastercraft finally took the boat back, shipped it to the factory and repaired it. He has had no problems since that repair was done. Now do I think it was a hull "failure"? No, I would venture a guess that the gelcoat had an issue.

Back to the OP's question. Demo, demo, demo. After that its not a bad decision either way. get out on the water and enjoy yourself. This thread is simply ridiculous on both fronts. Name calling, religious attacks, weak fibreglass, thick fibreglass, something about choppers.................

[nyryan2001]

I just come here to keep tabs on how crappy my boat is

[oldjeep]

I just come here to keep tabs on how crappy my boat is

If it wasn't for the ugly graphics, tower and vinyl patterns nautiques would be awesome;) Good news is that Malibu seems to be trying to keep up with the ugly vinyl patterns for 2016.

[ibelonginprison]

If it wasn't for the ugly graphics, tower, vinyl patterns, and owners nautiques would be awesome;) Good news is that Malibu seems to be trying to keep up with the ugly vinyl patterns for 2016.

Fixed that for ya...

[oldjeep]

Fixed that for ya...

Sounds like the old BMW joke. What is the difference between a porcupine and a BMW?

[ibelonginprison]

haha... one has pricks on the outside, the other one has pricks on the inside.

[ibelonginprison]

...er... am I allowed to say "pricks?"

[bamabonners]

haha... one has pricks on the outside, the other one has pricks on the inside.

As a BMW owner... I can appreciate this joke! LOL I definitely don't fit the stereotype.

[shawndoggy]

As a BMW owner... I can appreciate this joke! LOL I definitely don't fit the stereotype.

forum police are definitely the coolest police!

[Lance B. Johnson]

I don't have much to input here as I can't compare the two boats...wait I think you guys threw in Nautique too.....

But anyway just how many hull failures on malibus are reported here? My memory is poor but I can't remember a single person complaining except for maybe the guy that left his boat in the water for months and that was more of a gel issue. And not a Malibu problem IMHO.

Long story short you guys arguing about hull construction need to consider this. Besides even if one is better then the other all it does is drive up the price unnecessarily.

Now, the same exact thing can be said about tower construction. How many reported G3 failures? None or next to none. No point in arguing about that either. I find my G3 very easy to collapse. I have to do it every time it goes back in the garage and I am over 100 hours this summer. So I fold mine lots. Board racks off, speakers off, fold tower, done. I use a motorcycle tie down and secure it to the cleat to hold the tower in the collapsed position.

Edited September 4, 2015 by Lance B. Johnson

[Sunscape fan]

I have a G3 on my boat and it's rock solid! One day on the lake coming back to the dock I noticed a lot of movement and noise. I slowed to an idle and one of the knobs had come loose. Tightened it up by hand and voila!...no more noise or movement. I also don't understand the people that say the G3 tower is hard to put up/down cause it's heavy. I have to lower mine every time it goes in the garage. I have a Bimini, 2 PTM racks and 4 speakers. When I take out the knobs, the tower stays up on it's OWN! I have to push it down. It rests on the dash lightly. In the garage it goes. Then I push it back up and it stays up on it's OWN! I install the knobs, done. Other than maybe 2 more racks, I'm not sure what would make the tower heavier. And when I install or remove the knobs I just grab the top of the side of the tower and pull back. It's a one man job. Easy. I do kinda wish I had the latches of the G3.2 though. Oh well. I like the tower personally.

[wakerider107]

Just watched the Malibu factory tour and a couple things stood out:

1. At 8:55 they show the interior of a boat. I noticed the seat supports appear to be fiberglass. My understanding was all Malibu/Axis used a stainless steel support covered with carpet for the cushions to rest on. Am I misinformed, or is this just used on a couple models?
2. She states “12 degrees of deadrise allow the boat to ride higher on the water providing a smoother ride.” Isn’t the idea of a wake boat to ride low to displace more water?
3. 14:20 as they are putting the vinyl on the foam, I noticed there is no plastic liner to prevent moisture getting into the foam – something that many other manufacturers do.
4. 15:00 “premium Teflon thread.” I would be curious to know the specifics of what kind of thread since there have apparently been many malibus with thread issues lately. I am pretty sure it is not Gore-Tex like Nautique and MC.

[Malibuzer]

Let me guess, you don't own a Malibu?

If you don't like them, don't come on a Malibu forum.

[Fman]

Just watched the Malibu factory tour and a couple things stood out:

• At 8:55 they show the interior of a boat. I noticed the seat supports appear to be fiberglass. My understanding was all Malibu/Axis used a stainless steel support covered with carpet for the cushions to rest on. Am I misinformed, or is this just used on a couple models?
• She states 12 degrees of deadrise allow the boat to ride higher on the water providing a smoother ride. Isnt the idea of a wake boat to ride low to displace more water?
• 14:20 as they are putting the vinyl on the foam, I noticed there is no plastic liner to prevent moisture getting into the foam something that many other manufacturers do.
• 15:00 premium Teflon thread. I would be curious to know the specifics of what kind of thread since there have apparently been many malibus with thread issues lately. I am pretty sure it is not Gore-Tex like Nautique and MC.

What boat do you own Mr. Attention to detail?

[CJAY]

Just watched the Malibu factory tour and a couple things stood out:

1. At 8:55 they show the interior of a boat. I noticed the seat supports appear to be fiberglass. My understanding was all Malibu/Axis used a stainless steel support covered with carpet for the cushions to rest on. Am I misinformed, or is this just used on a couple models?
2. She states “12 degrees of deadrise allow the boat to ride higher on the water providing a smoother ride.” Isn’t the idea of a wake boat to ride low to displace more water?
3. 14:20 as they are putting the vinyl on the foam, I noticed there is no plastic liner to prevent moisture getting into the foam – something that many other manufacturers do.
4. 15:00 “premium Teflon thread.” I would be curious to know the specifics of what kind of thread since there have apparently been many malibus with thread issues lately. I am pretty sure it is not Gore-Tex like Nautique and MC.

I haven't seen any manufactures put plastic over the foam. My friends G21, another friends ASR, and my VLX all get squishy and water logged if they get water on the seats

[85 Barefoot]

I haven't seen any manufactures put plastic over the foam. My friends G21, another friends ASR, and my VLX all get squishy and water logged if they get water on the seats

And to that end, I would think a liner would be worse. You'd be trapping water in between vinyl and non-permeable plastic. Now, any water drains through the foam and through the vents on the underside of the seats.

[wakerider107]

I haven't seen any manufactures put plastic over the foam. My friends G21, another friends ASR, and my VLX all get squishy and water logged if they get water on the seats

I have pictures, however since i have not paid for membership, i cannot attach them..

The plastic covers the top surface between the vinyl and foam and extends about halfway down the sides - plastic does not cover the bottom of the foam.

My understanding is the plastic is there to force moisture to go around the foam and drain/evaporate through the vents. This way there is much less of a chance for the foam to get waterlogged just from water sitting on the vinyl.

I was just making an observation in the video, i guess i should have formatted it as a question rather than a statement.

I am really only familiar with Nautique and MC which is why i am trying to understand more about the Malibu process.

[CJAY]

I don't see it as a benefit. The foam will still suck up the water that doesn't go out the drain holes, then it will collect on the plastic. I know my friends G21 doesn't have this on his vinyl. I'd rather allow for the water to evaporate through the vinyl. Plastic just creates a non permeable place for mold and other things to build up under.

Each manufacture has their own way of doing things, though most are just more based on preference than actually adding quality.

[wakerider107]

I don't see it as a benefit. The foam will still suck up the water that doesn't go out the drain holes, then it will collect on the plastic. I know my friends G21 doesn't have this on his vinyl. I'd rather allow for the water to evaporate through the vinyl. Plastic just creates a non permeable place for mold and other things to build up under.

Each manufacture has their own way of doing things, though most are just more based on preference than actually adding quality.

I suppose it could go either way - maybe it works, maybe it doesnt. Just an observation of different processes. However, Nautique does this which i know as a fact. If only i could post pictures...

But anyway, I'm really curious as to what kind of thread Malibu is using

[shawndoggy]

MB does the plastic-under-vinyl too.

[Malibuzer]

You can post pictures. Put them on a hosting site like photobucket and then link it here.

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Edited September 9, 2015 by Malibuzer