Any 2016 product line info?

[DocPhil]

Stop trying to be an orange, badass motor Mr. Raptor.....

Too bad this engine outperforms it for much less $ + has a 5 year warranty.

Ilmor has a 5 year warranty, less emissions, and runs on 87 Octane. I win.

What is the actual HP of that motor?

Edited July 29, 2015 by DocPhil

[Tims]

Ilmor has a 5 year warranty, less emissions, no supercharger and runs on 87 Octane. I win.

Less emissions? I thought you love burning up oil. And don't forget you have less torque and paid more for it. But least you have that cool hat and it does look better, which is worth something.

Seriously though. The 7.4 is a bad a** engine.

[DocPhil]

Less emissions? I thought you love burning up oil. And don't forget you have less torque and paid more for it. But least you have that cool hat and it does look better, which is worth something.

Seriously though. The 7.4 is a bad a** engine.

You just busting my balls again?

[Tims]

You just busting my balls again?

Yup. Just jealous.

[bamabonners]

My old 5.7 Ilmor drank gas compared to the PCM I have now. Plus, the PCM is quieter (could be the one exhaust versus 2, I don't know). I don't miss the Ilmor.

Doc, how's the 7.4 on gas? I don't know of anyone around here with it.

[That Guy]

Didn't read everything but does anyone know if they fixed the bow cup holders on the Axis?

[NHolladay]

One cool feature I have never seen was the slide pin holes for bumpers. Would be nice to just drop them in instead of tying them up. Is that new or always has been an option. It was In the video they released detailing all the new features.

Edited July 30, 2015 by NHolladay

[DarkSide]

Ilmor has a 5 year warranty, less emissions, and runs on 87 Octane. I win.

What is the actual HP of that motor?

To bad you can't get these anymore.

Seriously though doc that 7.4 is freaking awesome. And running on 87 is a winner!

Edited July 30, 2015 by DarkSide

[Stevo]

One cool feature I have never seen was the slide pin holes for bumpers. Would be nice to just drop them in instead of tying them up. Is that new or always has been an option. It was In the video they released detailing all the new features.

It's been an option for a while

Probably cheaper options available but here you go.

http://www.westmarine.com/buy/taco--quick-release-fender-lock--15958606

Edited July 30, 2015 by Stevo

[Cory]

It's been an option for a while

Probably cheaper options available but here you go.http://www.westmarine.com/buy/taco--quick-release-fender-lock--15958606

This is the actual product...

http://www.bigskyprecision.com/PhenderPro.php

[23LSVOwner]

I thought all wakesetters were getting the flip up rear facing seat?

I think it is an option.

[boardjnky4]

Confirmed with my dealer that the rear facing isn't an option for the VLX. I don't know about the 23LSV.

that's a bummer

[K2rider]

My old 5.7 Ilmor drank gas compared to the PCM I have now. Plus, the PCM is quieter (could be the one exhaust versus 2, I don't know). I don't miss the Ilmor.

Doc, how's the 7.4 on gas? I don't know of anyone around here with it.

The 7.4 isn't too bad on gas. Runs just a little bit more than my buddy's 2015 A22 does. Wakeboarding loaded up and trying new tricks getting on plain and off will drink a pretty good amount, but if you're riding normal it isn't too bad. The gas was one thing I was worried about before I bought mine but it's a lot better than I thought it was going to be.

[DocPhil]

My old 5.7 Ilmor drank gas compared to the PCM I have now. Plus, the PCM is quieter (could be the one exhaust versus 2, I don't know). I don't miss the Ilmor.

Doc, how's the 7.4 on gas? I don't know of anyone around here with it.

First three GPH measurements

1)5.3

2)5.9

3)5.6

So average appears to be around 5.6 on the 7.4. That is about 70% surfing sacked out, 20% wakeboarding, 9% cruising/tubing/other watersports, 1% WOT runs. Gotta open her up every once in a while ya know!?

Edited July 30, 2015 by DocPhil

[wakebrdr94]

Rear facing seat is only on the 25LSV

[DocPhil]

Rear facing seat is only on the 25LSV

I know the rear facing seat seems like a great option but I can tell you its not as cool as you think it is.

I have one on the x-30 and we use it about 10-20% of the time. The issue is that it takes up a lot of room of the side seats when deployed.

In a 25 footer, probably not an issue. However, in a 23 it is a give/take scenario.

[Raimie]

I know the rear facing seat seems like a great option but I can tell you its not as cool as you think it is.

I have one on the x-30 and we use it about 10-20% of the time. The issue is that it takes up a lot of room of the side seats when deployed.

In a 25 footer, probably not an issue. However, in a 23 it is a give/take scenario.

I know its not as fancy (no backrest)...but the Axis boats have the rear sliding seat. We have used it once in 65 hours of operation.

[Wake23LSV]

Anyone heard exactly what the mid November "G23 type" boat release will be? I don't wanna wait that long to see if someone has some insider info!

Edited July 30, 2015 by Wake23LSV

[K2rider]

Anyone heard exactly what the mid November "G23 type" boat release will be? I don't wanna wait that long to see if someone has some insider info!

From what I've heard that's not happening. I've been told the 25 was the big thing. I don't know what everyone else is hearing after the release of the 25.

[IXFE]

I know the rear facing seat seems like a great option but I can tell you its not as cool as you think it is.

I have one on the x-30 and we use it about 10-20% of the time. The issue is that it takes up a lot of room of the side seats when deployed.

In a 25 footer, probably not an issue. However, in a 23 it is a give/take scenario.

I'm with Doc on this 100%. Even if it was an option on the 23, I would not buy it. For one, it's SUPER expensive. And as Doc said, when deployed you're basically putting two people in an area normally meant for 4-6 people. Another reason I don't like it is that you lose the storage tray over the transmission, at least I think you do. We used that space a lot... it's where we stash everybody's flip flops.

The wake view seating is nice on my boat, but it's sufficient as far as rear facing seats are concerned. And they don't rob you of any storage space. Everybody else in the boat just has to "strain" their necks 90 degrees so they can see the rider.

The other ironic thing is this... nobody watches me when I surf anyway. I look in the boat and I'm not joking when I say, I've even caught my wife (the driver) looking down at her phone. Sheesh... I get no respect!

[DocPhil]

I'm with Doc on this 100%. Even if it was an option on the 23, I would not buy it. For one, it's SUPER expensive. And as Doc said, when deployed you're basically putting two people in an area normally meant for 4-6 people. Another reason I don't like it is that you lose the storage tray over the transmission, at least I think you do. We used that space a lot... it's where we stash everybody's flip flops.

The wake view seating is nice on my boat, but it's sufficient as far as rear facing seats are concerned. And they don't rob you of any storage space. Everybody else in the boat just has to "strain" their necks 90 degrees so they can see the rider.

The other ironic thing is this... nobody watches me when I surf anyway. I look in the boat and I'm not joking when I say, I've even caught my wife (the driver) looking down at her phone. Sheesh... I get no respect!

I felt the same way when I was looking at the X23. The transom seats are like 2000 dollars and do people really wanna sit on the transom?

Not once in 2 years of owning an MXZ or LSV did 1 person sit on the transom for longer than 2 seconds

Edited July 30, 2015 by DocPhil

[DarkSide]

I personally would love it. I spent a good amount of time laying over sun pad this morning communicating with the surfer.

Sitting on your knees, leaning against backrest can get uncomfortable

Edited July 30, 2015 by DarkSide

[teamerickson]

We have been using ours more. Mostly for the kids. It's fun when they can watch and root for their friends. It does take up some space though. I like the option.

Edited July 30, 2015 by teamerickson

[Anderson24]

I personally would love it. I spent a good amount of time laying over sun pad this morning communicating with the surfer.

Sitting on your knees, leaning against backrest can get uncomfortable

I could have slid out the rear bench for you! However, you were on rope/photo duty the entire time.

[DatTexasBoy]

I didn't use my seat on the Axis either, but I think by having a back it will be more comfortable and we will use it more.