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To be honest, I prefer the gortex rope instead of dripless. Just for ease of maintenance if I do end up with a leak, you’re not separating the shaft and coupling to slide a new seal on.

Remove motor and take it to a shop that fixes motors

Hi, and thanks for your efforts. As the new post is the current info, and really would have been what I'd have edited into the start of the first thread, if you'd substitute my current one for the first of the original, I'll go back in and (presuming no issues on a new topic being edited) and delete reference to the earlier stuff. I was in contact with Ronnie; he tried to tell me how to edit, but after a couple of edits on the original, that function went away, as I demonstrated with a screen shot (no 'save' button) to him. Thanks for your help. But perhaps there's some software limitation on numbers of edits, as most certainly mine had that issue. L8R Skip

There was a mention, but no comment other than working successfully to bring alternatives online. Paraphrasing.

I did that on the tailgate of my truck during our first outing. Had a loose hose and rather than simply pulling the panel and tightening, we had to load back on the trailer because I couldn't get it off fast enough.

Everything really needs to be compared to pre 2020. Even though the last 4 years happened and the numbers were real, the market was pumped with all kinds of free money and its pure fantasy to expect the results to continue. Here is the link to their Q3 2019 results. Even compared to that its not great. Units are quite a bit less. Looking at the net sales shows just how much prices have increased since then!!!! 2024 has about 800 less units and more net sales. https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2019/05/09/1820612/29346/en/Malibu-Boats-Inc-Announces-Third-Quarter-Fiscal-2019-Results.html

https://www.greatlakesskipper.com/springfield-boat-power-seat-lift-127338-pef1-malibu-3-inch-aluminum I remembered seeing this on their site, not sure if this the right part.

I so need to do this. Next time mine are out this will be done. Thanks for the great idea.

Yes correct, picture is just misleading. Didn’t want anyone to get the wrong idea, but TE/Ampseal parts, and assume they’d work in new boat.

@SkipGundlach I am not sure what you mean by the edit function went away, the thread is not locked or hidden. But to keep this somewhat organized I am going to merge your threads together.

Completed Survey report here:

and not a peep about the lawsuit w/ Tommy's. that's probably predictable but also funny to me. I didn't listen to the call but hoping someone asked about it.

Yeah just lay down and look up at the back of it from under the helm. You should be able to take a pic of the model/serial numbers with ur phone.

With many apologies, but the editing function disappeared on my original post, and there are some significant things to report. There were several comments to the original, all of which can be seen, linked below, but this is cleaned up and current following my trip. If you want to see the original comment streams, click the pic: So, starting over: Greetings, all, So, I went to Holland MI, and have surveyed and sea trialed the Sunscape mentioned in these pages previously. (https://www.coralgablesyachts.com/boats-for-sale/2002-malibu-sunscape-21-lsv-holland-michigan-8967585/) It was pretty much as I expected, with a couple of surprises; the first was the virtual silence of the motor starting and running. That's among the good news. Along with that, based on the pictures in the ad, the interior was in fantastic shape, with only some incipient stitching failures at the various cushions' welting as typical of older boats, but no actual failures yet. It came with an unadvertised Skylon as well as both ski and wakeboard lines (but no toys) and the requisite brick full of horsecollar lifejackets. Another unadvertised, very nice, surprise was the also-installed Perfect Pass, seen just in front of the shifter. Another welcome feature, given that it will be me at the helm most of the time, was that even with my very long legs, my feet - with the seat fully forward - fit perfectly to the ramp at the front of the driver's compartment. Tilt wheel and bolster, along with a long, perfect-condition slide, made sitting high easy as well. And the sea trial was also pretty much as expected. Gentle rolling acceleration (like getting a new tow up for the first time) was smooth and silent. A hot start, as I used to do (throttle all the way, ease at ski speed) fully impressed the broker, and pleased me, as it exceeded the up-and-flat performance of my much smaller and lighter, Cleveland 351-powered, venerable Ski Supreme. On the other hand, on my hard-turns tests, what with a nearly-empty fuel tank, while the port turn was as expected, the starboard turn threw what little fuel there was away from the pickup tube, and we stalled out. In blustery cool winds, we drifted east, but got her restarted and back on the trailer without excitement other than having to back off and fiddle a bit due to the alignment poles being, respectively, stowed and broken off (on which more below). That was the good news/surprising pleasures. The not-so-good was limited to a couple of things, one which initially appeared potentially gnarly: The first is the rectangular hole in the starboard rear of the trailer frame which, I discovered, was the previous location of the bracket for the guide arm. That same arm (without the bracket attached to it) was in the port aft locker (the black tube between the Skylon poles). The bracket and arm which had been ripped off was lying on the stern cockpit sole... The frame didn't appear distorted, and so I'm trustful that a skillful welder can reattach that, pretty up the weld, and match the purple, hull-matching, paint which is in generally fantastic condition. As well, perhaps related, there had been some misadventure to the starboard fender, causing an incipient rear-step weld failure, as well as a potential tire hazard intrusion of material into the wheel well: The broker is going to further depress the fender edge to minimize the potential for its involvement with the tire on the trip south. The port fender/step has similar, though very much less distressed, issues. We'll get the boat in the water and then deal with resolving those fairly-straightforward repairs at a body shop or trailer specialist. I'm expecting this to be trivial to folks in that/those businesses. Once again, tiny, perhaps inconsequential, stuff, but with everything else being amazingly bristol (a sailing term meaning pretty and shipshape, if you'd not heard it before), something worth doing given the bargain achieved in this purchase. Finally, however, and I quickly received guidance from the group, in the original thread regarding solutions, the Velvet Drive transmission dipstick had the thought-to-be-screw-down part broken off and secured in the dipstick hole, leaving a small collar at the cap-end. I had first feared that it was a screw-in plug which would require a drift and a careful extraction, with a (hoped for) replacement easily sourced. It initially appeared to be a dissimilar metals problem visually, with what I presumed to be the solid screw-in having corroded to the aluminum. It was last fluid-replaced (with no 'younger' service records indicating any later attention given to the transmission) in 2021. The good news is that the hive mind knew better. First, it's a Walter V-Drive, and they're still very much in business. Best, it isn't a screw-in, but merely an O-ring-secured straight shaft, which, in the earlier thread, a kind soul pointed me to (albeit rather expensive, partly due to shipping, I expect) replacements; our broker (Brandon Ricci, Coral Gables Yachts, Holland MI) was adventurous enough to gently give it a tug, and it popped right out. The dipstick top actually looks like this pic: and it's entirely possible that a thorough cleanup and some judicious application of JBWeld will render the original sound again. It's my suspicion, as the remainder came out without a fuss, that this broke years ago and was treated as trivial and not worth fixing. I'm the kinda guy who'd fix or replace it, though ☺ So, overall, I'm thrilled that the dipstick will, even if expen$ive, be a trivial fix. On the way to the sea trial, it was noted that the left trailer tail light seemed inoperative (no blink or brake). Maybe a dead bulb, maybe a wiring issue; the starboard worked just fine. Small beans. The broker agreed to get that fixed before the shipper picked it up... in 4 days, two of which are weekend ... and on his nickel. Perhaps that's what the new housing seen in the Skylon pic was for, and the owners never got around to it ☺ The sale is complete, the compounding/buffing/waxing/polishing/cleanup-after is under way, and the shipper is picking her up (well, attaching the trailer to his hitch) and heading south this coming Monday. I sported my TheMalibuCrew shirt for the survey and sea trial, have acquired my 2014 Jeep Cherokee with never-before-used factory ClassIII tow package, and will have moved to the lake by this time next month! L8R Skip and cohort ☺

It might take me a while to get that kind of setup to find out, but thats good to know. Springs are not my anywhere in my world of expertise. Thanks for the suggestion.

These are 2023 to 2024 comparisons, I'm more interested in how 2024 YTD compares to the 2024 annual operating plan (budget). Was 10.5% EBITDA part of the FY2024 plan all along? What is their normal target?

wow. I think its telling when MC Q2 describe "Better-than-Expected Financial Results" to include "Net sales down 37.5%" and "Diluted Adjusted Net Income down 69.2%" I used to joke that Flat is the new Up, but now Flat would be a miracle

My money is on industry wide.

https://investors.mastercraft.com/static-files/24cae00b-634c-45fc-ae5c-4621e7d08cc1 Bad for everyone.... (this is Q2, not Q3) Remember, the street values how you do vs your peers....

I am fighting bad injectors now on a 2002, 5.7 Indmar MPI and this will bring the thread up to date on what I found. The rescue boat I'm working on has been sitting 2.5 years so many gremlins lurking. I drained the fuel, flushed the tank replaced the fuel pump, and flushed the rails. I started right up and ran poorly. I pulled the injectors and the screens were full of rust. I had them cleaned and checked locally and they were returned with a test sheet saying they all are within spec. It ran much better, but I could tell it wasn't right and it loped at idle a lot and would eventually die. I did the trick of pulling the injector wires while driving the boat at moderate power and 3 cylinders weren't hitting. I moved the injectors around and the dead cylinders moved with the injectors. I decided to replace the injectors but I couldn't find what to order. I searched the net and called the dealer. I called Indmar and got the right guy on the phone. The injector is a Rochester part number is 19244617. They are a 250 cc or 24 lb/hr injector as mentioned above. He said somewhere along the line GM changed the diameter of the hole in the intake manifold and I may have to ream out the holes a bit. He said this can be done with the manifold left on. Use a shop vac while reaming to pull the cuttings up. The boat motor uses fuel injection technology from the early 90's. Because boat motors don't have mass air flow and exhaust sensors for feedback they don't use modern systems. One of the companies I talked to in the process was RC Fuel Injection; they were very helpful. They offered to check my injectors and advise me on the correct flow rate. When I got the part number they could provide a close injector. I ordered a full set of these. They are 23#/hr injectors. It is considered a performance injector and was less than replacements from the auto store. We will see if they fit and if it fixes the problem. https://www.rcfuelinjection.com/Store/c/performance-injectors/p/sl2-0240-saturated-injector

The screen problem we are talking about is on the 2011-14 Malibus with the touch screen to the right of the steering wheel. They all delaminate and eventually fail. Malibus solution is to sell you a new one for thousands of dollars and it will also fail. Malibu has made no effort to change the way the screens are made so this will not happen even though its not that hard. Third party companies have stepped in to fix the problem. I'm not aware of any consistant problems with newer screens.

MC investor call is 05/08. This will determine if these numbers are isolated or industry wide. I.E. are these as bas they look...

They did say they were going to adjust production to better meet the market demand, while at the same time being a little more aggressive in price points.

Revenue missed, but EPS beat estimates this quarter. Stock is down a little on the open today. Predicted Q4 and Year-End Q4 for revenue to be down 40%. Overall the company reported uncertain economic conditions (interest rates) will remain and focus will be on dealer inventory. Much will depend on how summer sales decreases inventory and that effects production numbers and factory staffing. Sounded like 2025 will be flat sales.

Thanks all. I will order the vesconite bearing and dripless seal.