M235 first day on the water

[wheelman]

Fair enough. 

Edited April 26, 2017 by wheelman

[Anderson24]

16 minutes ago, ahopkinsTXi said:

For the record, this thread was way off track before that comment  

Maybe we need to be talking about how fast these aerator pumps could be draining the anti-freeze out of the bilge of the m235? Bring it back full circle.  

[nyryan2001]

Lots of guys putting 40-50hrs a year on their boats talking about fill and drain times.

im on year 5 nearly 700hrs with a 4-5000lb Ballast setup on 3 reversible Jabscos.  Surfing is full/drain ~4000lbs+ every time. 

It's 15mins+ to fill.  I fill enroute to our spot.  And finish while heading home. But still there are wait periods.  I can get maybe 2 seasons and I need new impellors ($25x3) as much as I use mine.

I wish it was faster.  Perhaps double pumps per each of the 5x ~1000lb bags.

Ramfill is faster but absolutely has issues.  Gates sticking and failing, fairly common.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2017 by nyryan2001

[Ronnie]

49 minutes ago, ahopkinsTXi said:

Look I'm all for spending as much time as possible behind the boat. But we are really just splitting hairs here. If 5-7 minutes is cutting it close to your available time then maybe that time slot is too tight to begin with. What if you have an engine impeller fail or something worse?

Yes there are faster systems out there. As soon as Malibu goes to that some other option will become available that is better and the forums will be screaming for those pumps. Or even if Malibu comes out with the fastest most reliable pump next year, within a year or two it won't be and here we go again...

All I'm saying is there is a huge trend here lately to jump all over the tiniest (imo) things when in the grand scheme of things it's not worth stressing about. Life is too short. And yes, I'm including you in that. But I'm trying to be polite. I'm happy you are really happy with your centurion, I really am. I think they are a very nice new boat on the market and the obviously produce a very nice, if not the best surf wave. I spent an hour in one at the boat show here. They have come a long ways! But give it a rest every so often, this is the Malibu forum. 

And yes I know, it's awesome we can discuss all boats. I love boats and love talking about them. It's my life. But these threads get so far off track over the littlest thing and now it sounds like Malibu makes a bayliner when that is so not the case. We all know it. And we all know that all boys have issues. Hell there is a long thread going on ball of spray about Mastercraft touch screen issues.  say it ain't so right? 

Sorry. Rant over. 

You guys wanted to let everyone talk about what ever boat makes or boat problems there are. Just know that everyone here isn't here to support Malibu even though this is a "Malibu" enthusiast's site. It seems there are a few trolls here to stir the pot and keep any perceived issues in the conversation to help drive the other boat manufactures sales. And yes, there are even other makes salesmen here to stir the pot. Know who you are responding to and make sure that you're not being baited.

Most other owners are here because they like the site and the members here. Sadly, the pot stirrers will be the ones that make this site like the other ones that they don't like. 

[Wakesetter67]

5 hours ago, Anderson24 said:

I find it pretty comical, the whole drain time/fill time. I literally have never been in a hurry in either of those situations. Really never even thought about it on the water! When my tanks are filling, I'm talking with my family and friends. Maybe even going over rules and/or proper technique for surfing. No time wasted in my opinion.

Why are we in such a hurry when we are on a boat?

All of this talk about time, etc. You know what is ironic? Watching certain boat manufacturers try to get a clean wakeboard wake, or trying to get a clean wave to surf, spending in excess of 10 minutes for this to happen. "Hey, sit over here! Wait no, back over here! Now freeze!" Well, so glad your tanks were filled before mine. That's the beauty of a Malibu...so what if it takes a few more minutes to fill ballast?...I bet it can form a rideable wave/wake faster than most manufacturers, right off of the trailer, with the push of a button. No time wasted. 

Irony is so entertaining to me. 

For me the fill time gives my engine time to really get up to operating temp, Even though your water temp reads 160 the oil takes a little longer to heat up, So by the time we are filled we are good to go, And we drain when the day is done and always putt back to the ramp, It's really a non issue!! 

[spikew919]

Couple hot pics to heat this thread up a bit ?

[NWBU]

56 minutes ago, ahopkinsTXi said:

Life is too short. And winter is too long.

Fixed it for you...

[DarkSide]

I have tried to keep this topic VERY Malibu centric for the reason it is a Malibu site.  I made one reference to 85 as a response to HIS STATEMENT, followed by an immediate return to the topic, in the same post   

I also suggested things that have been done and lauded by other members.   Such as using dedicated reversibles for his PNP.  A certain prominent member did that to his 2014 or 2015 23LSV.  It seemed like a great idea then,  and is still a great idea now.  

I also made references to solutions I did in my 2015 MALIBU, to solve this exact problem.   I also realize Malibu is using some fantastic pumps in the M235 for center tanks,  is it ludicrous to suggest these same pumps be used in other boats and other locations, to get fill/ drain times down.    

I am sorry these suggestions are offensive to some, or that they read more into them than intended.   To those I offended my appologies....

[wheelman]

25 minutes ago, nyryan2001 said:

Lots of guys putting 40-50hrs a year on their boats talking about fill and drain times.

im on year 5 nearly 700hrs with a 4-5000lb Ballast setup on 3 reversible Jabscos.  Surfing is full/drain ~4000lbs+ every time. 

It's 15mins+ to fill.  I fill enroute to our spot.  And finish while heading home. But still there are wait periods.  I can get maybe 2 seasons and I need new impellors ($25x3) as much as I use mine.

I wish it was faster.  Perhaps double pumps per each of the 5x ~1000lb bags.

Ramfill is faster but absolutely has issues.  Gates sticking and failing, fairly common.

 

 

Thanks for that useless post. You the man with 700 hours on your boat! Do we have a brownie badge for Nryan?

[spikew919]

Ask and ye shall receive 

[Bawshogg]

That's a Dabloon ...

[ConnollyCrew]

Just now, spikew919 said:

Ask and ye shall receive 

Why must you post our secret cotton coin??? ?

Edited April 26, 2017 by ConnollyCrew

[spikew919]

Just now, ConnollyCrew said:

Monkey picture???? ?

?

[ConnollyCrew]

Just now, Bawshogg said:

That's a Dabloon ...

Dem balloons from the grocery sto'

[Fman]

2 hours ago, Cole2001 said:

I can't compare, but I can definitely read other people's comments about it and comepare it to my own. 

Just reading all these comments like, bags don't drain completely, no vent lines, etc. 

That is completely true. Why fix something if it still works. I just feel like it's a little behind compared to its competition. 

I was hesitant about ordering the PnP on my 17 lsv.  My prior boats I installed Johnson reversible pumps for the bags.  The PnP seems to work quite well and when people are saying bags don't drain completely we are talking about a couple gallons of water which eventually gravity drain into the hard tanks.

Malibu has improved the PnP from prior years, larger hose diameters, dual fill and drain lines, better fitting placements.  I guess everyone has different expectations of what is acceptable.  I don't see it being a problem for us.

 

 

[85 Barefoot]

59 minutes ago, wheelman said:

For the record it was not a centurion guy that derailed this thread and turned it into a manufacture against other manufacturers. 85 just had to throw his comment in there about enjoying your ramfill when ramfill or centurion had not even been brought up yet. So blame one of your own. It was only talking about times to fill and drain and giving the poster suggestions or options to add extra ballast at faster times than the factory pnp. 

Pfft...yeah ok man

I threw in the "enjoy your Ramfill" because if you're going to publicly gripe about "unacceptable" fill times on a boat you don't even own, on that brand's forum, it's actually a quite logical response given your public pronouncements and reasoning for your decision to change.  I actually mean it seriously since you're standing by your position that Malibu factory fill time is "unacceptable", so I'll say it again, enjoy Ramfill.  

[Suggy]

5 hours ago, DarkSide said:

I guess I am a crazy for wanting to spend my time behind the boat vs. Waiting on pumps... guess what else, I can strike up a conversation or get tips, while a person is riding, it's awesome!  You can do both at the same time, you don't have to have one or the other.  It's all about a life without limits!  

Anyone else catch this?  Throwing in a Malibu quote there .  I have been on this site for just under a year and really appreciate all the help @DarkSide has provided, even after he has gone to the darkside.  Not only himself but many other members that I constantly see show up.  However, I am too new to know who people are and who the "potstirrers" are.

 

Everything aside, I still love and fully support Malibu.  Do I wish their drain and fill times were shorter?  Yes, why not save time?  But guess what.  I solved that problem by installing separate, reversible pumps for the fat sacs and added a vent line.  Solved all those issues.  Just wanted to throw that out there since I still fully believe in Malibu and believe they are the best.  I think some people took my comment negatively/bashing Malibu just because I wanted faster fill/drain times...

[Bawshogg]

[bamaboy]

Just now, Suggy said:

However, I am too new to know who people are and who the "potstirrers" are.

 

 

Sitting around a large table.....

 

bamaboy: Hi I'm bamaboy and I'm a pot stirrer.

 

Everyone: Hi bamaboy!!

[Bawshogg]

I can't figure out if I'm a "salesman" , a "pot stirrer" or a "troll" 

Anyone?..... Anyone???

Edited April 26, 2017 by Bawshogg

[wheelman]

1 minute ago, 85 Barefoot said:

Pfft...yeah ok man

I threw in the "enjoy your Ramfill" because if you're going to publicly gripe about "unacceptable" fill times on a boat you don't even own, on that brand's forum, it's actually a quite logical response given your public pronouncements and reasoning for your decision to change.  I actually mean it seriously since you're standing by your position that Malibu factory fill time is "unacceptable", so I'll say it again, enjoy Ramfill.  

I have owned 3 malibus and almost every other manufacturer of tow boats. I have also logged more seat time driving and setting up every manufacturer than most. My experience and first hand knowledge I think allows me to comment on any boat. I do not think I've ever pronounced what my decision was to change manufactures on this site was, if I have please quote me on it. While you're looking for my quotes you will also find that I've quoted I think Malibu is the best all around boat on the market. Every boat has room for advancements, that what keeps the industry going and I don't think you will find many Malibu owners that don't agree the plug n play could be better. 

[spikew919]

13 minutes ago, Bawshogg said:

I can't figure out if I'm a "salesman" , a "pot stirrer" or a "troll" 

Anyone?..... Anyone???

Thought it was established that you're a DB! Dammit man pay attention!  

 

Repeat after me,  IM A DOUCHE BAG, your a DOUCHE BAG, we are all DOUCHE BAGS. ???

[wheelman]

Or is it dirty bastard!

[Bawshogg]

As long as I have a title ..." I shall wear it proudly". 

Thats all that matters... I just wanna be someone.

[85 Barefoot]

Just now, wheelman said:

I have owned 3 malibus and almost every other manufacturer of tow boats. I have also logged more seat time driving and setting up every manufacturer than most. My experience and first hand knowledge I think allows me to comment on any boat. I do not think I've ever pronounced what my decision was to change manufactures on this site was, if I have please quote me on it. While you're looking for my quotes you will also find that I've quoted I think Malibu is the best all around boat on the market. Every boat has room for advancements, that what keeps the industry going and I don't think you will find many Malibu owners that don't agree the plug n play could be better. 

 From fill times, to build quality, to materials in bilge, to surf wakes, to your smoking deal on your Ri, is that sufficient? That's just off the top of my head.  

 In this thread you pinned Ramfill coming up on me, and I just retorted, honestly, regarding your decision to forego your "unacceptable" plug and play. So who really brought it up?   Me?  Or you?   

Enjoy your Ramfill.  Seriously.  I hope you enjoy it.