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Towing with an EV


Eagleboy99

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1 hour ago, Bozboat said:

Golf Carts are awesome around the neighborhood, otherwise I need an F150/250 gas/diesel

I hit like despite the Ford and 1/2 ton references because I agree with the basic sentiment.  :)  

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45 minutes ago, Eagleboy99 said:

LOL  Clearly you have never been on a cattle drive.  And are those helis EVs?  ;)

Clearly you have slept in the local Holiday Inn Express a few too many times…..

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3 minutes ago, dlb said:

Clearly you have slept in the local Holiday Inn Express a few too many times…..

Clearly you are clueless about cattle drives.  Oh wait - you get your beef from HEB or Kohl's.

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4 hours ago, dlb said:

Because they use helicopters 

and motorbikes, quads and side by sides. Horses use has dramatically reduced. Only used in certain locations or roles.

Horses have been replaced by various motor vehicles, or more correctly engine vehicles for almost all transport. Won't many years and they'll become electric motor vehicles.

Not all though. Just as horses remain for some tasks ICE will remain for some transport tasks.

Times change. Some people don't accept change. Some do. Sometimes change doesn't suit every location or role.  Pointless trying to debate change.

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11 hours ago, Eagleboy99 said:

OK - how many miles per charge in the winter?

Like I said. Winter I get between 200-250mi depending on how cold, how aggressive, and how fast I drive. It’s never been below 200. What’s nice is that the Tesla navigation feature plots out where to charge and for how long, so it’s completely automatic. It adjusts by itself in case the vehicle isn’t getting the mileage it expects and reroutes you. Super easy.

travel has been upper US Midwest (mostly driving to/from Wisconsin, Michigan, and Illinois) so temps get down pretty low.

Example: travel to Michigan is to/from cottage (470mi). Every ICE I own needs 1 fill up and EV needs 2 charges, so the net is 15-30 mins more. This is the most common trip I take. This is using superchargers.

If I buy an EV tow vehicle, then I figure I’d probably need 3 charges, as my ICE tow vehicle needs 2 full fill ups. Again, probably 15-30 mins more. I only tow my boat, so I’d really not have to worry about towing in cold.

EV may not yet work for everyone, but it’s working so far for me.

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16 hours ago, Eagleboy99 said:

Push the reset button and come back, OK?

I had just pushed the reset button; that's why the MPG calculation was zero....  :whistle:

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5 hours ago, braindamage said:

If I buy an EV tow vehicle, then I figure I’d probably need 3 charges, as my ICE tow vehicle needs 2 full fill ups.

I'd figure four charges instead of three.  That ~50% number isn't just fake news.

The important thing here is that you will get much worse performance when towing with an ICE, EV, or even a horse.  It doesn't really matter how much worse, you just have to be prepared to deal with it in your situation.  If four charges compared to two charges works for you, I say go for it and enjoy life. 

I bought the 36 gallon tank in my F150 so I don't have to stop for gas all the time when towing.  The upside is the crazy range I get when not towing.

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10 hours ago, braindamage said:

Example: travel to Michigan is to/from cottage (470mi). Every ICE I own needs 1 fill up and EV needs 2 charges, so the net is 15-30 mins more. This is the most common trip I take. This is using superchargers.

If I buy an EV tow vehicle, then I figure I’d probably need 3 charges, as my ICE tow vehicle needs 2 full fill ups. Again, probably 15-30 mins more. I only tow my boat, so I’d really not have to worry about towing in cold.

Two fills in 470 miles?  Yikes.  

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20 minutes ago, Eagleboy99 said:

Two fills in 470 miles?  Yikes.  

dang our 2006 QX56 woulda needed three fillups to tow 470 miles confidently.  Ask @IXFE how far you can tow a 25LSV with a yukon.

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21 hours ago, Eagleboy99 said:

Clearly you are clueless about cattle drives.  Oh wait - you get your beef from HEB or Kohl's.

Just be aware that 

PS I worked in agriculture for 40 years. I know where my beef comes from.  

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3 hours ago, Eagleboy99 said:

You guys doing 85 mph?

80+ is my go to on Interstates when I'm comfortable pressing the limit.  In some places (e.g. Atlanta) the regular traffic is doing 80 and you'll get run over if you go slower.  I recognize that 70 gets me much better mileage when towing.  65 is even better, but who can do that?

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3 hours ago, dlb said:

Just be aware that 

PS I worked in agriculture for 40 years. I know where my beef comes from.  

Texas beef is garbage.  Boot leather. Gimme corn fed Nebraska  or WestCan beef any day. Real ranchers don't use a machine to round up the lil doggies.

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7 hours ago, shawndoggy said:

dang our 2006 QX56 woulda needed three fillups to tow 470 miles confidently.  Ask @IXFE how far you can tow a 25LSV with a yukon.

From Dallas to Knox and back, thank you very much. Just watch that fuel gauge!  

I’ve now done that same haul with the F250 twice, and I’m fixin’ for a third in a few weeks. 

Funny that it took being tagged to even click on an EV thread. But since you did, here’s my take... whether for daily driving or towing a boat, an EV is a solution to a problem I don’t have. Glad it works for some folks, but it will be a while before I own one. Like @Bozboat, I think they are great as golf carts. I just have no interest in paying a premium only to  lose the engine sound and wait 40 mins to “fill” it up.  Wake me up when they a cheaper, go 500+ miles, recharge in 10 mins, handle like a GT350, and don’t looks so silly. That would get my attention. 

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9 hours ago, Eagleboy99 said:

Nice.  At least 1000 feet with a decent sized boat.  

I'm not sure I catch the point here.  You seem to be swatting around a question but not actually asking one.  I don't like to tow my 20x8 toy hauler that fast because of the huge hit in mileage.  I can look in the mirror and see the front panels bending in the air stream.  I generally don't tow my boat long distances.  The most likely for me is my flat bed trailer with either a load of freshly sawed lumber or my Kubota tractor.  Either load can easily be several thousand pounds, but both tend to hide behind the truck well enough that the wind drag isn't as bad as with taller loads like the boat or toy hauler.

Trying to compare mileage with others is hard to do because of differences in the tow vehicle and the load.  Your tandem trailer will have more rolling resistance than my single.  My aluminum I-beam trailer may have more wind resistance than your steel box trailer.  Then start covering or not, leaving the center windshield open/closed, or the tower up/down, and you can't really compare much any more.

The point, once again, is that people seem to expect some great big gain out of some new technology, when the reality is that smaller incremental gains are much more likely.  Towing is a huge load on a vehicle for the reasons I stated before.  Acceleration (moving mass), rolling drag, and wind drag all play a big part.  You will not get anywhere near your normal mileage when towing anything substantial enough to "know that it is back there."

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Snow, Traffic Jams, and Electric Cars.

 
Has anyone thought about this?
 
If all cars were electric ... and were caught up in a three hour traffic jam .. result .. dead batteries!  Then what?
 
Not to mention, that there is virtually no heating in an electric vehicle.
 
And if you get stuck on the road all night, no battery, no heating, no windshield wipers, no radio, no GPS (all these drain the batteries) !
 
You can try calling 911 to bring women and children to safety!  But they cannot come to help you since all roads are blocked.  The socialist green weenies will probably require all police cars to be electric also (if we still have police departments then?)
 
And when the snow storm is over, the roads are still blocked and no one can move!  Their batteries are dead.
 
How do you charge the thousands of cars in the traffic jam? (That is a business I think I’d like to look into.  Drones to deliver heavy batteries and someone to remove and install.)
Same problem during summer vacation departures with miles of traffic jams.  There is virtually NO air conditioning in an electric vehicle.  It would drain your batteries quickly.
 
No socialist bent reporter talks about this, of course!
You can’t even call in horses to rescue you. 

 

PS: For us in hurricane alley... think about scorching heat on an interstate during contra-flow. It would literally be hell on earth.
 

food for thought. 🤔🤔

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