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Lift for Slalom Ditch


jjackkrash

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I have been allowed one space for a dock and lift on a slalom ditch (there is not dock in my spot currently).  It also acts as a staging area between sets when there are more than two boats so I would prefer the lift move fast.  The bottom is clay.  I have never bought a lift before.  I was looking around and the hydraulic lifts that sit on the ground look like what I want but I am open.  I have equipment like a mini ex and skid steer with forks, etc., to unload and move into place and trailers to transport, but I also don't mid paying for an install if there is something tricky about installing a lift.   Some of the others have the wheel that spins but this looks a little slow to me.    Any thoughts?  Do I get the lift first and build the dock around it?  Please feel free to dump any advice you can think of.  We are in pac NW so sun is spotty for solar.  I think there is power access and I also have plenty of generators to recharge batteries if that's an issue.  I am checking on the power situation this weekend.  

 

 

 

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Note that anything I get will have a cover and I also don't plan on storing on the lift when I am not at the property.  Also, I have seen advice on get a big lift for potential upgrade, but the CCRs don't allow more than 21 foot inboards and I am never, ever, ever, ever going to have anything other than a 3-event direct drive boat on this lake.  

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Storing on the lift while not on the property isn't an issue unless you're concerned about vandalism.  Hydraulic lifts are awesome, but an electric cable lift is also just as good.  IF you have a clay bottom with little potential for settlement, a hydraulic cantilever lift may be your most cost effective option, but I prefer vertical lifts.  

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I am leaning towards vertical lift but I have no idea why.  :)  It just seems like it would be better to me.

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I have 5k ShoreStation hydraulic lift. I think that is as fast of a lift that you can get. Brand new I would guess you would be around 13-15k for that with the top and solar power with batteries.

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If you are not planning to store it there I’d just put in a dock and some premeasured lines to hold the boat in the center of the dock. Why spend the $$ and time with the lift?

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On 4/10/2021 at 6:38 AM, jjackkrash said:

Note that anything I get will have a cover and I also don't plan on storing on the lift when I am not at the property.  Also, I have seen advice on get a big lift for potential upgrade, but the CCRs don't allow more than 21 foot inboards and I am never, ever, ever, ever going to have anything other than a 3-event direct drive boat on this lake.  

FYI a lift with a canopy and no boat on it is easily trashed in high winds. Have seen this personally at a friend's house 20 years ago or so. Wind picked the lift right up and flipped it over the dock landing upside down. Damaged the dock also. 

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7 minutes ago, UWSkier said:

FYI a lift with a canopy and no boat on it is easily trashed in high winds. Have seen this personally at a friend's house 20 years ago or so. Wind picked the lift right up and flipped it over the dock landing upside down. Damaged the dock also. 

Ugg.  I really want the boat out of the sun when I am at the lake but not using it. 

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2 hours ago, braindamage said:

If you are not planning to store it there I’d just put in a dock and some premeasured lines to hold the boat in the center of the dock. Why spend the $$ and time with the lift?

I am pretty excited about a lift but this observation deserves some consideration.  We will spend days in a row there and I think a lift will be worth it to me but point well taken.  

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Maybe a boat cover for sun protection is an easier solution vs a canopy?

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If a canopy on a lift is a bad idea on the wind what about mounting the canopy directly to the dock? We’ve done this in the past with slips. Just get one of the 10x20 shelter logic tents with just the roof from Home Depot. 
 

Being that you have a super light boat I would watch for something used. Everyone seems to be upgrading to meet the needs of the larger boats and needing to get rid of the old lift. 

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I talked to the Basta rep who said they can install a lift in the next two weeks if I want as they are already coming out to the lake on other business.  I'm looking at a 4.5k aluminum or 5k galvanized (both vertical/hydraulic lift) for about the same price (galvanized a bit more).  Apparently galvanized can go shallower if needed so I'm going to check on lake depth.   

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I think I would go with the lift versus not.  If you are concerned about the canopy catching the wind, simply roll the fabric off and store it when you leave.  It takes about 20 minutes to remove or install, not a real big deal (usually, depending on the set up).

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I just ordered a 4500 lbs. Basta hydraulic/aluminum vertical lift.  It might get installed as early as Monday.  

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I've heard of there being problems with lifts that don't have a boat on them in high winds.  I've seen that addressed by installing screw in dock posts and tying the lift to them.  Not sure how well it works, but it's not entirely uncommon here.  One of the places I spoke with when I bought my hoist a few years ago said that they do that on all their lift installations.  

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