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dcarl

2020 LSV 23 build motor decision

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dcarl

I hope you guys can help with this. I having a really hard time deciding on which motor.  I have pretty much ruled out the m5di.  If I lock down my order now I can get it with a Raptor 410. I would love a m6di but with the discount they're offering its a $7000 dollar difference.  I don't mind  how loud it is, I like the roar of it. I have to same motor in my current boat. I did have the O2 sensor problem, but its been solid ever since.  My only real concern with it is with resale.  Will 2020 raptor be an odd duck that won't sell?  I probably won't be trading it in because the wife says "this is your last boat". Knowing you guys love to spend other peoples money, I could use some honest advice. Thanks

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CJAY

If it's your last boat get it exactly how you want it, or you'll regret it. My wife made me promise to hold this boat for 7 years, so I got all the things that can't be changed later how I wanted, and am doing winter projects every year to get the ones I can change how I want.

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shawndoggy

Out of curiosity, is the Raptor 450 an option or only the 410?

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dcarl
8 minutes ago, shawndoggy said:

Out of curiosity, is the Raptor 450 an option or only the 410?

Not sure we never discussed the 450.

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shawndoggy
Just now, dcarl said:

Not sure we never discussed the 450.

might be a good middle ground between cost and performance?

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breakz77

If you're going to be running fully loaded you're going to want more motor than the Raptor 410.

After having that motor in a previous boat I would not get it again. They have not "officially" corrected the CO2 sensor issues that I know of.

Also think about why they would be offering such a large discount on that motor..

 

If it was me I would go with the M6di especially if this is you're planning on keeping for a while.

 

 

 

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audipwr1

I went with the 410 - was told new exhaust, new sound deadening, and 02 sensor resolved by dealer 

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Raleigh

What about the PCM 450?

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NWBU
5 minutes ago, Raleigh said:

What about the PCM 450?

The PCM's are only available in the Axis line during this period when they're backfilling the GM supply issues.

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Raleigh
10 minutes ago, NWBU said:

The PCM's are only available in the Axis line during this period when they're backfilling the GM supply issues.

Hmmm, didn’t know that but explains why it was offered in the Axis A24 to me. 
 

Why wouldn’t they offer it in the Malibu? 

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NWBU
59 minutes ago, Raleigh said:

Hmmm, didn’t know that but explains why it was offered in the Axis A24 to me. 
 

Why wouldn’t they offer it in the Malibu? 

My understanding is there weren't enough extra PCM's to cover the entire Axis and Malibu production. Axis got the available PCM's, which has been their legacy engine, and Malibu made a deal for some Indmars.

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dcarl
2 hours ago, audipwr1 said:

I went with the 410 - was told new exhaust, new sound deadening, and 02 sensor resolved by dealer 

Have you taken delivering yet? 

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2020LSV23
7 hours ago, dcarl said:

I hope you guys can help with this. I having a really hard time deciding on which motor.  I have pretty much ruled out the m5di.  If I lock down my order now I can get it with a Raptor 410. I would love a m6di but with the discount they're offering its a $7000 dollar difference.  I don't mind  how loud it is, I like the roar of it. I have to same motor in my current boat. I did have the O2 sensor problem, but its been solid ever since.  My only real concern with it is with resale.  Will 2020 raptor be an odd duck that won't sell?  I probably won't be trading it in because the wife says "this is your last boat". Knowing you guys love to spend other peoples money, I could use some honest advice. Thanks

We locked in the new M6i motor. Our dealer offered the Raptor motor with a discount as GM was striking but our concern was resale if we want to find a buyer in a few years. I wasn’t sure if people would prefer new GM motor and if it would be an impediment to getting top dollar for resale

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gregtay
8 hours ago, dcarl said:

I hope you guys can help with this. I having a really hard time deciding on which motor.  I have pretty much ruled out the m5di.  If I lock down my order now I can get it with a Raptor 410. I would love a m6di but with the discount they're offering its a $7000 dollar difference.  I don't mind  how loud it is, I like the roar of it. I have to same motor in my current boat. I did have the O2 sensor problem, but its been solid ever since.  My only real concern with it is with resale.  Will 2020 raptor be an odd duck that won't sell?  I probably won't be trading it in because the wife says "this is your last boat". Knowing you guys love to spend other peoples money, I could use some honest advice. Thanks

If you can wait id' go with the M6... you will be very happy and never regret that decision. And yes.. I think it will be harder to sell down the road, or to say it differently... a 23LSV with an M6 will always be much easier/quicker to sell.

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Brianborder

I’d wait for the M6DI to be available.  I’ve had the 450 raptor and now the M6 and it’s an incredible improvement.  

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Murphy8166

What discount is everyone seeing in choosing the raptor.  
 

our 2020 will have M6

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dcarl
1 hour ago, Murphy8166 said:

What discount is everyone seeing in choosing the raptor.  
 

our 2020 will have M6

I was quoted 2k off m5di price.

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2020LSV23
38 minutes ago, dcarl said:

I was quoted 2k off m5di price.

Me as well, around 2K

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djheywood

I was abkle to secure a M6di in my new 23 MXZ, but I would have been happy to entertain a discount on a supercharged engine.  Didn't sound like that was an option!

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wdr
1 hour ago, dcarl said:

I was quoted 2k off m5di price.

That was the upcharge at the time for going to the M5 over a PCM on mine.

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dcarl

I knew I could count on you guys.... the M6di it is! Dropping my VTX off on Friday. Thanks @CJAY your response made my mind up! I'm getting exactly what I want, no regrets. You can upgrade a lot of things later but a motor not so much.

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audipwr1
13 hours ago, dcarl said:

Have you taken delivering yet? 

No spring delivery 

raptor makes more power than m5 so thought a good interim solution -  bigger displacement better at altitude 

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CJAY
32 minutes ago, dcarl said:

I knew I could count on you guys.... the M6di it is! Dropping my VTX off on Friday. Thanks @CJAY your response made my mind up! I'm getting exactly what I want, no regrets. You can upgrade a lot of things later but a motor not so much.

Exactly.  Get the pieces you can't upgrade post build, then budget in the others for later.  I survived 2 summers with the crappy stock wetsounds dsp amps.  Swapping those out for 3 sdx6 amps this winter

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formerathlete

M6 is so much more motor than the Raptor. Smart move. You won't regret it, IMO.

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Murphy8166

So help me understand this...

The M6 is around $4,500 upgrade and the M5 is the motor that stock.

Are you saying that the difference b/t a M6 and Raptor motor is a $6,500 swing?

 

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