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MustGoFast

Add on boarding ladder help?

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Eagleboy99
7 hours ago, store934 said:

We use 6 stainless ¼” bolts with locking nuts to through bolt the ladder to the swim step. As long as the holes are not countersunk too deep there should be no issues

SS Fender washers.

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justgary
10 minutes ago, Eagleboy99 said:

SS Fender washers.

I think they are talking about flat head bolts, and countersinking them.  It seems like you would feel bolt heads through the pad if you used fender washers.

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Dawg

When the ladder is down, is it designed to stay at about a 90 degree angle to the platform or will it sway back toward the rudder when climbing up?

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Slurpee
1 hour ago, Dawg said:

When the ladder is down, is it designed to stay at about a 90 degree angle to the platform or will it sway back toward the rudder when climbing up?

It doesn't sway to the rudder. It stops a little shy of 90 degrees.  It's pretty sturdy and a favorite feature on my boat.

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BearCreekBum

I'm probably going to add a ladder soon and trying to decide on the 3 step versus the 4 step. Mainly going to install because of back issues for myself and family members.

Do you seen any disadvantage to installing the 4 step ladder? There does not appear to be much difference is the stowed dimensions.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

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dalt1
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On 8/20/2019 at 7:42 PM, Catman said:

I did not like the factory step on the side of the swim step and wanted one in the center. I researched here on the forum and copied another member(sorry I don’t remember who). I purchased a 3 step ladder and fabricated a stainless steel support frame, then fiberglassed it on. I’m not a professional fiberglass person, but it has held up well.  Including the ladder purchase, I have $180 in it.

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Wondering if 3M 5200 adhesive would hold this to the deck without fiberglassing it in? Would still make the frame. Just sticking the ladder on wouldn't cut it. Now also wondering how thick the platforms are? Possibly adhesive plus screws from through frame and screwed into platform from the bottom side without going through. Just trying to save all those perfectly good platform pads.

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Eagleboy99
12 hours ago, dalt1 said:

3M 5200 adhesive would hold this to the deck without fiberglassing it in?

Not a chance IMHO

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dalt1

After looking at my platform today, may not be room for ladder. Only about 1" clearance between the surf pipe and bottom of platform. Unless it fits in the area at the rear of pipe.image.thumb.png.5b50fb5c1d1d89e6bdff94b840bacab3.png

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blk93jeepzj
19 hours ago, dalt1 said:

After looking at my platform today, may not be room for ladder. Only about 1" clearance between the surf pipe and bottom of platform. Unless it fits in the area at the rear of pipe.image.thumb.png.5b50fb5c1d1d89e6bdff94b840bacab3.png

Looking at the below picture not sure why you could not use it with surfpipe?  May have to offset it to the side a bit worst case. 

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kylesullens

I had the local machine shop modify the platform support so that the ladder bracket could bolt directly to it.  This gave me several advantateges:
If the ladder gets mangled, it is easy to replace
The bracket is very sturdy
Not relying on the fiberglass of the platform to support the bolts (which will fail eventually)

I am really happy with out it turned out.  One of the best mods i've done to this or any other boat.

It does not noticeably affect the wave.

 

 

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MustGoFast
2 hours ago, kylesullens said:

I had the local machine shop modify the platform support so that the ladder bracket could bolt directly to it.  This gave me several advantateges:
If the ladder gets mangled, it is easy to replace
The bracket is very sturdy
Not relying on the fiberglass of the platform to support the bolts (which will fail eventually)

I am really happy with out it turned out.  One of the best mods i've done to this or any other boat.

It does not noticeably affect the wave.

 

 

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That looks like a great way to go, got any more specs as to what was done?  Or more part pics?

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blk93jeepzj
15 hours ago, kylesullens said:

I had the local machine shop modify the platform support so that the ladder bracket could bolt directly to it.  This gave me several advantateges:
If the ladder gets mangled, it is easy to replace
The bracket is very sturdy
Not relying on the fiberglass of the platform to support the bolts (which will fail eventually)

I am really happy with out it turned out.  One of the best mods i've done to this or any other boat.

It does not noticeably affect the wave.

 

 

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How does it surf on that side?

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kylesullens
13 hours ago, MustGoFast said:

That looks like a great way to go, got any more specs as to what was done?  Or more part pics?

I used this ladder

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I don't have the schematic that I drew for the fab work.  But your platform bracket is different than mine anyway.  I would buy the ladder you want (I suggest one with a full bracket, like the one linked above).  Take the ladder and the platform bracket to your favorite fabricator and ask him to attach it.  If you have the ability, you can draw up the design for the attachment.

Not magic or rocket science, just takes some ingenuity to come up with the right placement.

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kylesullens
1 hour ago, blk93jeepzj said:

How does it surf on that side?

I haven't noticed any impact on the wave on that side.

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