2020 Axis Line Up - Rumors and wishes

[boardjnky4]

14 minutes ago, onwi said:

Saw an instagram clip of the M5 being loaded into T22s in Australia. 

There are a bunch of differences with Axis on the Aus boats, though, so I wouldn't necessarily say that definitely means anything. They have that and they have the brown/saddle interiors available over there, as notable differences. Maybe that's an indication of things to come over here, maybe not. The factory and supply chain is completely different, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

[bjw444]

I have been building new t23s and everything ordered now has the m5di as standard 

[agarabaghi]

thats aweomse. so you get a 1/2 closed cooled engine!

[MustGoFast]

Isn't that actually a smaller lower output engine than the 409 it's replacing?  (5.3L vs 6L although hp numbers get messy but claiming 350 on the new MD5 claims on the 409 are anywhere from 350s to 400)

Assuming same output (not a given) I'd guess smaller = better fuel economy but the change seems more risk than reward here.

[Hemmy]

11 hours ago, MustGoFast said:

Isn't that actually a smaller lower output engine than the 409 it's replacing?  (5.3L vs 6L although hp numbers get messy but claiming 350 on the new MD5 claims on the 409 are anywhere from 350s to 400)

Assuming same output (not a given) I'd guess smaller = better fuel economy but the change seems more risk than reward here.

Watch the video with the gorgeous blonde. This will explain it.

https://www.malibuboats.com/news/2019-news/malibu-monsoon-engine-power?utm_source=Consumer Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Monsoon Engine&utm_content=Engine Power

[st22eve]

New A20 to follow the 19 A22 🤷🏼‍♂️

[formerathlete]

Looks like they tweaked the tower a bit based on this picture. And the Malibu engine.

 

https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2020-axis-a22-103606941/?refSource=standard listing

[boardjnky4]

Everything ends up growing on me, but not convinced at first glance that I’m feeling that tower.

[formerathlete]

Need to see one in person or at least real photos but I would agree based on those pics. Our 2019 A22 ships next week, hopefully. Time is standing still right now!

[Raimie]

I would love to see a windshield redesign on Malibu and Axis. The current design is prior to surfing being a thing. We could use a little taller windshield and a higher seat base.

[MFknK]

19 hours ago, formerathlete said:

Looks like they tweaked the tower a bit based on this picture. And the Malibu engine.

 

https://www.boattrader.com/listing/2020-axis-a22-103606941/?refSource=standard listing

In the features below the pictures, it says AW Shock Package. Think this means the tower is assisted?

[MustGoFast]

On 6/18/2019 at 9:53 PM, Hemmy said:

Watch the video with the gorgeous blonde. This will explain it.

https://www.malibuboats.com/news/2019-news/malibu-monsoon-engine-power?utm_source=Consumer Email&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Monsoon Engine&utm_content=Engine Power

Watched the video - references to "torque is what matters" but no data comparing old and new which I think you'd want to provide when downsizing the engine.

Sounds like a bigger change is the gear ratio in the final drive 2:1 instead of 1.5 or something of the like will be the big change as apposed to at the motor.

Edited June 26, 2019 by MustGoFast

[formerathlete]

According to CARB, the 2019 PCM Monsoon/Crusader 409 is 363hp and 341 ft. lbs. (https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/cert/eo/2019/sime/u-w-013-0056.pdf). The 2019 Malibu m5di appears to be 344hp and 374 ft. lbs. and the m6di is 386hp and 446ft lbs. (https://ww3.arb.ca.gov/msprog/offroad/cert/eo/2019/sime/u-w-034-0005.pdf).

One notable difference between the old Axis standard 409 and the new Axis standard m5di is that max torque is achieved at 3375rpm in the m5di vs 5600rpm with the 409. Otherwise, there doesn't seem to be a huge difference in power output between those engines from my novice eye. I also believe the m5di is 1/2 closed cooled and will require 92 octane fuel whereas the PCM Crusader 409 is raw water cooled and can run 87 octane.

Edited June 26, 2019 by formerathlete

[onwi]

On 6/24/2019 at 9:52 AM, MFknK said:

In the features below the pictures, it says AW Shock Package. Think this means the tower is assisted?

I do believe the next tower will be assisted.  That will be a huge change to me.

[agarabaghi]

Seems like it. All other manuf have got thick and fatter with towers. not sure how i feel about that skinny one.... looks like the junky nxt tower size wise

Man an A24 with the m6di would be a beast.

Does the t23 still spin a 15" prop? Anyone know more about the gear ratio change?

[MFknK]

3 hours ago, agarabaghi said:

Seems like it. All other manuf have got thick and fatter with towers. not sure how i feel about that skinny one.... looks like the junky nxt tower size wise

Man an A24 with the m6di would be a beast.

Does the t23 still spin a 15" prop? Anyone know more about the gear ratio change?

Yeah. The only thing my A24 needs is slightly more power... The way we are weighted, we have to trick the auto wedge sometimes because the bow stays lows. Just have to click wedge up a little prior to the speed it comes up on its own. 

Honestly there would have a to be a huge change for me to upgrade right now though. Totally stoked on the boat.

[Raleigh]

On 6/5/2019 at 2:21 AM, Tjards said:

hoping for softgrip color options and the sepia brown seats like I keep seeing on all the axis overseas

 

Done!

[Raleigh]

I was kind of hoping they would change the bow cushions to look like the A22. Maybe this will be a 2021. I'm not sure I can wait...

[agarabaghi]

We have a 2020 A22 and soon a 2020 A24 coming. 

The A22 got the m5di and everything else is pretty much cosmetic, we did opt for the hydraulic steering as we surf that boat more and wife says its hard to turn the 19 now. 

The A24 should be black with brown seadek and brown / black vinyl. m6di in that one. Should be a beast. 

[Arbie44]

On 6/6/2019 at 11:33 AM, boardjnky4 said:

Someone on the FB Group said they went in to order one and was told that M5DI and M6DI would be the engine choices. No mas PCM/Crusader.

Yea that's what the dealer told me. They're bringing it all in house

[Arbie44]

On 7/2/2019 at 10:24 AM, MFknK said:

Yeah. The only thing my A24 needs is slightly more power... The way we are weighted, we have to trick the auto wedge sometimes because the bow stays lows. Just have to click wedge up a little prior to the speed it comes up on its own. 

Honestly there would have a to be a huge change for me to upgrade right now though. Totally stoked on the boat.

@MFknK what's your elevation? I had the same issue when my A24 was fully sacked.... just changed to an 18" prop lovingggggg the extra power

[agarabaghi]

18" fits the a24 how close to the gel coat? 

[Arbie44]

19 hours ago, agarabaghi said:

18" fits the a24 how close to the gel coat? 

About an inch or so with the 3309

[Raleigh]

When do the new models get released on the website? I saw the A20 is out for 2020 but nothing yet so far...

[Danimal154]

Mine got sprayed August 27th. Hopefully it comes soon!