04 LSV wake

[McLarenLSV]

Hey guys, just picked up an 04 23 LSV with factory hard tanks and I'm just wondering what everyone else has done as far as extra ballast goes. If I took out the rear factory tanks and replaced them with 1100 fat sacs, would I need to add more weight in the bow as well? I am running a  delta wake shaper. 

Thanks!

[jrod604]

Hi, I just picked up an 04 as well and am having difficulty getting a wave that I can surf without the rope.

-I replaced the rear hard tanks with the 850’s from wake makers. 

-using a swell wakesurf creator

-bow and center tank full

-370 lbs bag in port locker under seats. M

I had 14 people in the boat last week and was able to finally let go of the rope. I just haven’t been able to get the wave to give me enough push, like I have had on the other boats I’ve ridden behind. Sorry not trying to highjsck yuyr thread, just sharing my experience so far. 

[Padge]

I wouldn’t remove the hard tanks. Just put your new bags in the lockers. You’ll def want at least a 750 in the bow. I don’t know if 1100’s would be needed for that hull. Maybe 750’s?  1100’s would make it very steep without any bow weight. 

[Padge]

You’ll also want to list the boat just a little to the surf side. 

[blk93jeepzj]

7 hours ago, jrod604 said:

Hi, I just picked up an 04 as well and am having difficulty getting a wave that I can surf without the rope.

-I replaced the rear hard tanks with the 850’s from wake makers. 

-using a swell wakesurf creator

-bow and center tank full

-370 lbs bag in port locker under seats. M

I had 14 people in the boat last week and was able to finally let go of the rope. I just haven’t been able to get the wave to give me enough push, like I have had on the other boats I’ve ridden behind. Sorry not trying to highjsck yuyr thread, just sharing my experience so far. 

You need to add more weight to the bow to lengthen the pocket.  Approx 700 lb needed in the bow with the 850's in the rear (850's probably don't need to be full either).  Slight bias to the surf side as well, either with people or not even filling of ballast bags.  

Where are you placing the swell at?  Best results for us is under the gas cap fill, lower section of the hull up as high as possible.  Want it partially out of the water when underway.

Wedge down.  

Speed 12.5 for us.  (Speedo may need to be calibarated too)

[blk93jeepzj]

4 hours ago, Padge said:

I wouldn’t remove the hard tanks. Just put your new bags in the lockers. You’ll def want at least a 750 in the bow. I don’t know if 1100’s would be needed for that hull. Maybe 750’s?  1100’s would make it very steep without any bow weight. 

Remove the hard tanks.  Wakemakers makes a tankbuster kit that makes it simple to swap.  You can find everything to DIY but their kit is ready to go and convenient.  

On the 04 (only year) the tanks were above the floor and take up a lot of room that is better utilized by bags.  

[jrod604]

13 hours ago, blk93jeepzj said:

You need to add more weight to the bow to lengthen the pocket.  Approx 700 lb needed in the bow with the 850's in the rear (850's probably don't need to be full either).  Slight bias to the surf side as well, either with people or not even filling of ballast bags.  

Where are you placing the swell at?  Best results for us is under the gas cap fill, lower section of the hull up as high as possible.  Want it partially out of the water when underway.

Wedge down.  

Speed 12.5 for us.  (Speedo may need to be calibarated too)

Thanks for the advice,

i will try this exact set up this coming weekend. I’ve been running the swell as low as I can, hopefully that changes it for me. 

[Imracin68j]

900 lr 700 rr 250 under lr seat. 800 bow. Wedge down

 

best combo for vlx 2008 

[JLT3]

Did you ever get it working with more push?  I am having a similar issue and also have a swell.  Where is the sweet spot to put it?  I am running 850s in locker and 650 on bow.  My prop might need to be changed as well.  Going to get a 1941 or 1235.

[JLT3]

Any update on this?  Where did you find the best place to put the swell ?  Under the gas cap fill is pretty far forward.  Did that work for you?  Thanks!

[blk93jeepzj]

8 minutes ago, JLT3 said:

Any update on this?  Where did you find the best place to put the swell ?  Under the gas cap fill is pretty far forward.  Did that work for you?  Thanks!

Still been the best spot for us.  

[JLT3]

And wedge down?  My wedge is not power wedge so it is up or down position only.

[blk93jeepzj]

Wedge down for us, no power here either.  Forgot to drop it last weekend when my brother surfed, immediately could tell that the wave had no push.  Stopped, dropped the wedge and the push was back.  

[malibu2004]

On 7/26/2018 at 10:44 PM, jrod604 said:

Hi, I just picked up an 04 as well and am having difficulty getting a wave that I can surf without the rope.

-I replaced the rear hard tanks with the 850’s from wake makers. 

-using a swell wakesurf creator

-bow and center tank full

-370 lbs bag in port locker under seats. M

I had 14 people in the boat last week and was able to finally let go of the rope. I just haven’t been able to get the wave to give me enough push, like I have had on the other boats I’ve ridden behind. Sorry not trying to highjsck yuyr thread, just sharing my experience so far. 

What board do you ride? I can ride rope less behind our 2004 VLX with, 750 wakemaker rear tanks, center tank full and 200 pounds in the walkway,  driver and spotter, wedge down at bout 10.8 mph all day long. If you have all the weight and still can't ride ropeless you might want to consider the person that looks back at you when you look in the mirror. 

How long have you surfed? How do you position your feet? How fast are you going? 

Last weekend I went behind a G23 and surfed easily without a rope yet my friend couldn't come close to going ropleless. The reality is he just sucks. 

[wakesetterDD]

i would just add that a prop (see wake makers selection chart) is a must.  Not because it won't work without it, but the engine will respond better.  My experience is that with this kind of weight in the back of the boat the boat never truly planes (maybe the new ones do but my 99 VLX doesn't), but the prop helps it plane somewhat.

Edited July 26, 2019 by wakesetterDD