How do you deal with them?

[gonorth]

At my lake it's actually legal to hunt the filthy animals from June to October. You have to get a jetski hunting liscense but it's no more expensive than a fishing permit.

Is there a scoreing system for your the ones you harvest? Like double points if there is a passenger, tripple if pulling a tube?

I don't usually run into real bad ones on our lake but one day we were looking for some glass to foot on. Wind and boat traffic was just wrong but we found one spot that was decent. After two straight line runs a ski starts to idle out from a dock, pointed in a way that would cross the path of our next run (same path we just used twice). So we quickly gitty up to beat him. Just as the footer is comeing up this idiot kicks it in and crosses in front of us. The footer droped immediately and we were pissed and fliped him some hand signals but he never looked back.

Then, the following weekend, same spot we finished a footing run and were gonna return on the same path and we notice this jerk idleing out from his dock again. This time he hit it sooner so we never started our run, but instead of just waiting a few seconds or crossing behind us he whiped by about 200 feet in front of us. Arg, no courtesy for other boaters. I think the jerk did it on purpose the second time after he saw us there again.

I guess a lot of this happens with other boaters too, but you just remember the stupid stuff more when it is a ski doing it.

Edited September 11, 2006 by GONORTH

[relentless]

the worst one i have ever seen was at a wakeboarding tournament. In the middle of someones run they started jumping the wake probably only 10ft from the rider. After the boat made it to the end of the course the jet ski just started making circles around the course. i was in my boat watching with about another 100 boats and every single one of them were yelling and cursing at the jet ski but he didnt listen. then the jet ski helping eith the tournament start chasing him when the guy slowed down the tourny jet ski pulled up next to him and told him to get out of here. The second the tourny jetski left the idiot turned around and started weaveing in and out of the boats watching and messing around on the course agian . at that point serveral boats in the audience fired up their boats and started after him when that didnt work the pull boat and the tourny jet ski went after him they just formed a line from one side of the cove to the other and forced him to the back. when they came back we waited a minute to make sure that he wouldnt come back so when he didnt they started it up agian. we hadn't got more than 2 more rides through when the same jet ski only this time with two girls on it came back. they did almost the exact same thing. they were still caseing it down agian when i left. which was when i saw the patrol boat on its way over there.

[Stanley Wheelhouse]

At my lake it's actually legal to hunt the filthy animals from June to October. You have to get a jetski hunting liscense but it's no more expensive than a fishing permit.

lets hunt. we can get licensed and a double barrel 6 oz can launcher!

[newone]

We have a sea doo. To me it is like a motorcycle for the water. Just like my bike, I enjoy getting out and

just cruising.

[Big Dubya]

But how tolerant would you be if your child or family member was behind the boat doing what they love and a jet skier starts jumping your wake and just so happens (accidently) hits one of your family members! For me being a father and caring friend I don't like boats, jet skis to close. I will even change my direction so that a boat will not be on the same path as me.

I agree that if the jet skiier is being unsafe and getting too close, then you should say something. But at the same time, people on here saying they aim and drive at the jet skiiers. How would you feel if your family member was on a jet ski and a nice Malibu turned and deliberatly headed straight for them.

Lake-nazi. You act like all Bayliner and Jet ski drivers are stupid. Believe me, I've seen more than my share of Malibu's and Mastercrafts with drivers that have no idea what they're doing. Just because you have the money to afford something nice doesn't mean you know how to use it. At the same time, I had a Bayliner for 10 years before this season when we got the Malibu? Did I all of a sudden learn how to drive when I got this boat? No. I've been careful with my boat for 10 years, and I was just as safe with that boat as I am this one.

bingo.

my sentiments exactly

[Top Edge]

I am sure I am not the only Jet Ski hater. How do you all deal with them?

I am surely not nice, in fact down right rude. These people have no respect for the course, direction, or passengers you may be towing. Has anyone had success in getting through to these idiots? They kind of rate with a Bayliner owner!

I keep a full can of soda in reach at all times. I feel that if I can hit the jet skier they were not within the boating laws. Providing it's not the lake sheriff patrol.

[SacRiverRat]

I am sure I am not the only Jet Ski hater. How do you all deal with them?

I am surely not nice, in fact down right rude. These people have no respect for the course, direction, or passengers you may be towing. Has anyone had success in getting through to these idiots? They kind of rate with a Bayliner owner!

I keep a full can of soda in reach at all times. I feel that if I can hit the jet skier they were not within the boating laws. Providing it's not the lake sheriff patrol.

Yea, you wouldn't want to waste a beer on one of those riders

[jetskipro550]

This thread sucks and its full of dumb @$$ comments! There are tons of idiot boat drivers (inboard too), canoe operators, jet skiers, swimmers (around the docks)...every activity you can think of on the water has an idiot participant I am much more fearful of dumb boat drivers then I am of jet skiers. I don't treat jet skiers any differently then anyone else on the water who endangers me, my boat, or my rider. I will wave and yell to get their attention, then take down their numbers and picutres of their vessle, then turn them into the cops...simple as that.

[Malibuman]

I agree with jetskipro as there are plenty of folks whose first boat is a BU or MC and don't know anything about proper navigation skills. I think EVERYBODY WHO OPERATES A WATERCRAFT should have to take the boater safety class then there would be no excuse. Saw two nice young people whose first boat is a Centurian ENZO , so I went over to meet them and talked to them and proceeded to explain a few rules and they appreciated it, but a safety class would have taken care of that. Plenty of 60 mph bass fisherman that could use a safety class also.

[SacRiverRat]

Yea, this thread with the boat ramp thread... you guys getting uptight or what?

[NorCaliBu]

As much as I hate government intrusion...boat driver licensing may be the only answer here. Over Labor Day week-end we saw more poor drivers than we did good ones.

What drives me nuts about the jet-skis is when they come out at the crack of dawn and chew up the morning glass. Same with tubers. There was a guy on our lake last year that would come out and pull a tube around every morning that we went out skiing. Tubing at 7:30 am... ...He did it to try to get us to not ski early, he didn't like the boat noise. Don't know if he was around this year...I had a broken wrist most of the summer and didn't ski much. Why buy a lakefront house if you don't like boat noise?

It has been said "You can't fix stupid"...well you can't fix selfish or inconsiderate either apparently.

Edited September 13, 2006 by NorCaliBu

[east tx skier]

We always have a camera on the boat. If they are getting too close or otherwise being dangerous, we snap a picture, write down their reg. #, and call the water cops. It's extremely satisfying.

If we don't have a rider in tow, and they are in a wake jumping mood, we pull it down to no-wake idle. I know deep down inside that I'm more patient than these yahoos. I have yet to have one outlast me.

If they are just riding down the lake, we politely wave to them.

[ragtopdave06]

They kind of rate with a Bayliner owner!

I am so glad that since buying a Malibu, I haven't become a dumbass hater like this.

[VinRLX]

You will, give it time. Give in to your hate so you can know the true power of the dark side.

Interesting second post.

[ragtopdave06]

You will, give it time. Give in to your hate so you can know the true power of the dark side.

Interesting second post.

Well, sorry to sound so harsh, but it's this kind of attitude I just won't have. All but owners can be idiots, not just Bayliner owners. And to be honest, they both can have their faults. Bayliner owners, I guess people on this forum would think are poor dumb rednecks that can't afford a quality boat, thus, they must be ignorant to boat laws or just don't care enough to follow them. Of couse, the other side would think that people that own expensive boats, such as Malibu, Nautique, Moomba, etc, are rich a******* that feel they can do whatever they want, since they have the money to do whatever they want to do.

As for my own personal experiences, I've seen as many bad Bayliner owners on the lakes as Malibu. My brother owns a Bayliner and is a great driver on the lake. Many people we see on the lake that own Bayliners are also good drivers and follow the rules. I will admit though, that there are plenty of bad drivers I've seen that own Bayliners, as well as many other boat brands. Maxum, Tahoe, Sea Ray, even Pontoon boaters. I've also seen Malibu, Nautique, Moomba, Tige types almost drive right over us while we are out on our PWC's. The price boat you have does not make you a better or worse driver. All I can say is if Malibu owners feel they are so superior to Bayliner owners, you have a ton of real life experience to discover.

[ragtopdave06]

This thread sucks and its full of dumb @$$ comments! There are tons of idiot boat drivers (inboard too), canoe operators, jet skiers, swimmers (around the docks)...every activity you can think of on the water has an idiot participant I am much more fearful of dumb boat drivers then I am of jet skiers. I don't treat jet skiers any differently then anyone else on the water who endangers me, my boat, or my rider. I will wave and yell to get their attention, then take down their numbers and picutres of their vessle, then turn them into the cops...simple as that.

I totally agree. What's the point of getting down to name calling or talking about how bad a driver is because of what name brand boat they own? I do exactly what jetskipro does. Like he says, simple as that.

[Baddog]

You will, give it time. Give in to your hate so you can know the true power of the dark side.

Interesting second post.

Well, sorry to sound so harsh, but it's this kind of attitude I just won't have. All but owners can be idiots, not just Bayliner owners. And to be honest, they both can have their faults. Bayliner owners, I guess people on this forum would think are poor dumb rednecks that can't afford a quality boat, thus, they must be ignorant to boat laws or just don't care enough to follow them. Of couse, the other side would think that people that own expensive boats, such as Malibu, Nautique, Moomba, etc, are rich a******* that feel they can do whatever they want, since they have the money to do whatever they want to do.

As for my own personal experiences, I've seen as many bad Bayliner owners on the lakes as Malibu. My brother owns a Bayliner and is a great driver on the lake. Many people we see on the lake that own Bayliners are also good drivers and follow the rules. I will admit though, that there are plenty of bad drivers I've seen that own Bayliners, as well as many other boat brands. Maxum, Tahoe, Sea Ray, even Pontoon boaters. I've also seen Malibu, Nautique, Moomba, Tige types almost drive right over us while we are out on our PWC's. The price boat you have does not make you a better or worse driver. All I can say is if Malibu owners feel they are so superior to Bayliner owners, you have a ton of real life experience to discover.

One of the reasons PWCs can get run over, or nearly run over, is that they are so small. I ride both motorcycles and PWCs and know first hand the people who may drive a Bayliner, Malibu, SUV or Mini-van drivers, just don't see the small vehicles sometimes.

[GoldschlagerVT]

One of the reasons PWCs can get run over, or nearly run over, is that they are so small. I ride both motorcycles and PWCs and know first hand the people who may drive a Bayliner, Malibu, SUV or Mini-van drivers, just don't see the small vehicles sometimes.

And really, wouldn't that make the Bayliner, Malibu, SUV or Mini-van drivers the bad drivers? Not being aware of what is around them.

[WakeGirl]

As much as I hate government intrusion...boat driver licensing may be the only answer here. Over Labor Day week-end we saw more poor drivers than we did good ones.

What drives me nuts about the jet-skis is when they come out at the crack of dawn and chew up the morning glass. Same with tubers. There was a guy on our lake last year that would come out and pull a tube around every morning that we went out skiing. Tubing at 7:30 am... ...He did it to try to get us to not ski early, he didn't like the boat noise. Don't know if he was around this year...I had a broken wrist most of the summer and didn't ski much. Why buy a lakefront house if you don't like boat noise?

It has been said "You can't fix stupid"...well you can't fix selfish or inconsiderate either apparently.

And as is evidenced by our roads, licensing won't fix any of that. There has to be enforcement (more specifically, the money to provide the enforcement) to make a real change & that just isn't there. The only other way that licensing works is if you also make it financially prohibitive to break the laws that are in existence. That also is not currently the case (on the road either).

I've said it before & I'll say it again, I have seen enough over the years to convince me that no group holds the monopoly on good or bad drivers on the water, whether that results from actual raw driving skill (or lack thereof) or just using your head (or not).

[Malibudude]

It's getting time to say bye to public lakes hello private lakes....for the vast majority problem solved.

[Baddog]

One of the reasons PWCs can get run over, or nearly run over, is that they are so small. I ride both motorcycles and PWCs and know first hand the people who may drive a Bayliner, Malibu, SUV or Mini-van drivers, just don't see the small vehicles sometimes.

And really, wouldn't that make the Bayliner, Malibu, SUV or Mini-van drivers the bad drivers? Not being aware of what is around them.

Yes it does, but I was really trying to be generous here and defend those people that are generally OK drivers, but because they have never driven one of these "naturally invisible" vehicles, they don't even know how to look for them let alone see them. Scary but true.

[stewart]

It's getting time to say bye to public lakes hello private lakes....for the vast majority problem solved.

And time for you to say goodbye classic, hello VLX

[ragtopdave06]

It's getting time to say bye to public lakes hello private lakes....for the vast majority problem solved.

You must be rich and don't care about the rest of people that can't afford to own a place on the lake. This is a very bad idea. Wakegirl has the only real solution, and that is to enforce the laws on the lake. Of course, licensing is a good idea too. That will cut down on a LOT of people.

What drives me nuts about the jet-skis is when they come out at the crack of dawn and chew up the morning glass. Same with tubers. Mad.gif There was a guy on our lake last year that would come out and pull a tube around every morning that we went out skiing. Tubing at 7:30 am... Bash.gif ...He did it to try to get us to not ski early, he didn't like the boat noise.

Are you serious? You think someone would get up and tube at 7:30 am, tubing and making boat noise, because he doesn't LIKE boat noise? Would that not be defeating the purpose of not like boat noise?

If this is the mentality and thought process of people that own homes on the lake, this isn't saying much about lake homeowners.

I'm going to show this thread to all my friends and family so they can see I'm not making this stuff up!!

I mean, I come into this forum to get good information on Malibu boats and to talk with other owners of Malibu boats, and I see bashing of non-malibu boat owners, bashing of PWC riders, bashing of people that like to tube. What's next, bashing the handicapped because they might have special needs and it takes up more of your precious lake time?

But these two things, making public lakes private lakes and boaters that intentionally drive around in the morning just to spite someone? I just have to shake my head at this one. Does not make sense.

[NorCaliBu]

You must be rich and don't care about the rest of people that can't afford to own a place on the lake. This is a very bad idea.

What are you, a socialist? Besides $1500-2500/year for membership at a private ski lake does not require you to be rich just to have a passion for watersports.

Are you serious? You think someone would get up and tube at 7:30 am, tubing and making boat noise, because he doesn't LIKE boat noise? Would that not be defeating the purpose of not like boat noise?

I didn't say that I understand it but I can tell you that it did happen...I was there.

If this is the mentality and thought process of people that own homes on the lake, this isn't saying much about lake homeowners.

Nice, in your second post as a member here you jumped all over someone else for stereotyping Bayliner owners and now you're going to stereotype lakefront homeowners. Let's see...you defend Bayliner owners and insult lakefront home owners. Tells me a little bit about you.

I mean, I come into this forum to get good information on Malibu boats and to talk with other owners of Malibu boats, and I see bashing of non-malibu boat owners, bashing of PWC riders, bashing of people that like to tube. What's next, bashing the handicapped because they might have special needs and it takes up more of your precious lake time?

If that's all you saw, you didn't look very hard and you saw what you wanted to see. A large group of our members spent several days pulling terminally ill children around on inner-tubes so don't come in here with your "holier than thou" attitude when you have no idea who you are talking to.

But these two things, [1]making public lakes private lakes and [2]boaters that intentionally drive around in the morning just to spite someone? I just have to shake my head at this one. Does not make sense.

[1] Malibudude never advocated making public lakes private. His desire is to join a private lake for skiing / wakeboarding so as not to have to deal with inconsiderate people.

[2]That boater was the owner of an I/O (not a Malibu), but I'm sure he was a great guy and we just misunderstood him.

[ragtopdave06]

You must be rich and don't care about the rest of people that can't afford to own a place on the lake. This is a very bad idea.

What are you, a socialist? Besides $1500-2500/year for membership at a private ski lake does not require you to be rich just to have a passion for watersports.

Are you serious? You think someone would get up and tube at 7:30 am, tubing and making boat noise, because he doesn't LIKE boat noise? Would that not be defeating the purpose of not like boat noise?

I didn't say that I understand it but I can tell you that it did happen...I was there.

If this is the mentality and thought process of people that own homes on the lake, this isn't saying much about lake homeowners.

Nice, in your second post as a member here you jumped all over someone else for stereotyping Bayliner owners and now you're going to stereotype lakefront homeowners. Let's see...you defend Bayliner owners and insult lakefront home owners. Tells me a little bit about you.

I mean, I come into this forum to get good information on Malibu boats and to talk with other owners of Malibu boats, and I see bashing of non-malibu boat owners, bashing of PWC riders, bashing of people that like to tube. What's next, bashing the handicapped because they might have special needs and it takes up more of your precious lake time?

If that's all you saw, you didn't look very hard and you saw what you wanted to see. A large group of our members spent several days pulling terminally ill children around on inner-tubes so don't come in here with your "holier than thou" attitude when you have no idea who you are talking to.

But these two things, [1]making public lakes private lakes and [2]boaters that intentionally drive around in the morning just to spite someone? I just have to shake my head at this one. Does not make sense.

[1] Malibudude never advocated making public lakes private. His desire is to join a private lake for skiing / wakeboarding so as not to have to deal with inconsiderate people.

[2]That boater was the owner of an I/O (not a Malibu), but I'm sure he was a great guy and we just misunderstood him.

Well I'm glad to see you took the time to reply to each point. Kudos! I'll just go from top to bottom if that's okay.

1-Private lakes in this part would be hard to come by, so I would just as soon have our lake remain public. Sure we have to put up with people like you have to, but I see past it as people out having a good time, legally. We shouldn't have to have our big public lakes become private. IF you want to be part of a private lake due to a passion for watersports, which I have too, find a smaller lake in the area that already IS private, and join it? My point, it's a bad idea to just say make public lakes private and that's all it takes.

2-So you mean, you were "assuming" that's why he did it? You have to admit, that would be an asinine reason to do something like you accused him of. Maybe just coincidence?

3-I NEVER stereotyped lake front owners, but I will always insult lake front owners if they say something like a boater would intentionally get up and pull tubers at 7:30 JUST so people couldn't ski. That sounds like a child tattle telling because little Johnny did something they didn't like. And from that one sentence, that you misconstrued, it tells you something about me? I didn't know you were a psychotherapist. As a side note, I never defended Bayliner owners, just saying that just because they own a Bayliner doesn't mean they're the scum of the earth, as the idiot that made that statement was implying.

4-I never said that was ALL I saw, I said, and I will quote, "I come into this forum to get good information on Malibu boats and to talk with other owners of Malibu boats, and I see bashing of non-malibu boat owners, bashing of PWC riders, bashing of people that like to tube." Make sure you don't stick your foot in your mouth. Now if it's not in there, go find my post that I said that's ALL I saw. I never made some broad statement that everyone in here thought that way.

5-(1)Okay, so he didn't advocate it, but he sure did make a statement about it. (2) Why does it make a difference if he was in an I/O rather than a Malibu?

I'm sure I said some things that rubbed you the wrong way, if so, I'm sorry. I do not take likely to people that just bash because they THINK they are superior to others(not directed at you, but many on this forum), and I'll point out how stupid I think they are every chance I get. And it's soooo easy. So, if you want to agree with "lake-nazi" and call people names because of what boat they can afford, then I will lump you in the same category as he is. He can't even leave his original post intact because he knew how much of an idiot he sounded like after so many people replied. He is obviously one of those types that makes so much money, he feels that he is superior to everyone that isn't in his earning bracket. I'll say it again, I don't tolerate people who think they are superior because of their income.