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gordon20mxz

Does a 1991 Euro F3 Have Wood?

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gordon20mxz

I have a desire to own a direct drive again as a second boat. I love my MXZ, but you can't slalom ski behind it. I don't want to spend a lot so I have been searching the internet for old classics strictly for skiing.

On the river where I boat there is a old Ski Supreme approximately in the 1985 range that has been sitting exposed to the weather, uncovered for a couple of years. It is probably a total disaster but I was thinking of knocking on the door of the house and asking about it and see if there want to sell it cheap, let me give it a home and take it on as a project boat. Might be an interesting experience for me and my son, but could also end up being a total nightmare. I have been researching replacing wood stringers and not sure I want to do that. I have never worked with fiberglass. Where I live I am not sure I have shops with in-board experience for engine work and wiring etc..

So then I was thinking that is might be better just getting something that runs. I am afraid of wooden stringers if I am going to buy something that runs because I don't want to accidently get into a renovation project.

So, any thoughts on a 1991 Euro F3. I found one I like this one because it already has a speed control installed and they did NOT put a tower on it. But after reading some old posts on this forum, I think this boat will have wooden stringers. Now, maybe if the boat was well cared for, that is not a problem, I don't know, that is why I am asking.

It's on Ski It Again. I would post the link, but for some reason the Malibu Crew website and my computer will not let me cut and paste to the forum posting section.

I did grab a screen shot because I can post pictures.

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Levi900RR

First year of all glass was 93

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gordon20mxz

Levi,

Thanks, good information to know as I search.

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WakeGirl

First year of all glass was 93

And only in 1 model, the Echelon. All Skiers were made with wood, as were all Sunsetters prior to 1995. (The Euro F3 moniker on either makes no difference.)

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gordon20mxz

OK, looking for a 1993 or younger Echelon.

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WakeGirl

Yup, that will be your huckleberry I think. Great all around boat, & they made them in 3 flavors - closed bow, open bow with step-over and open bow with a full walk-through.

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UWSkier

What speeds/length do you prefer? In the early 90s, the Prostar 190 had about the best wakes you could get. My buddy's '91 Nautique is pretty dang nice also though it does have the trademark 22' rooster Nautique is known for (all boats have it, theirs is just more pronounced historically).

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james11music

And only in 1 model, the Echelon. All Skiers were made with wood, as were all Sunsetters prior to 1995. (The Euro F3 moniker on either makes no difference.)

i own a 93 Sunsetter euro f3 and it has a fiberglass floor and stringers. The base of the seats are wood, but the important stuff (stringers and floor) are fiberglass. Levi is correct... 93 and after malibu's had fiberglass.

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gordon20mxz

i own a 93 Sunsetter euro f3 and it has a fiberglass floor and stringers. The base of the seats are wood, but the important stuff (stringers and floor) are fiberglass. Levi is correct... 93 and after malibu's had fiberglass.

james,

Thank you for the confirmation. I know the 1993 threshold now.

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WakeGirl

i own a 93 Sunsetter euro f3 and it has a fiberglass floor and stringers. The base of the seats are wood, but the important stuff (stringers and floor) are fiberglass. Levi is correct... 93 and after malibu's had fiberglass.

That's not normal. I've heard of this on occasion, but in general that boat would have been mostly wood from the factory. Your boat is the exception, not the rule.

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husabeast

As i posted in another thread, I have in my possession an original Malibu brochure from 1994 with the entire product line and specifications. Specs for F3 Skier and Sunsetter state composite stringers, fiberglass floor, and Fibecs motor mount system. My '93 has no wood except seat bases.

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Lanman

My 93 euro f3 skier doesn't have wood. Not even in the seats. Also has fibecs.

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Dare2goBare

I had a 92 Euro F3, Malibu brought out the FIBECS CHASSIS in 92 on the Euro F3, so i'm thinking 91 would still have

wood stringers. 

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cugrad90
On 8/20/2016 at 12:11 AM, Dare2goBare said:

I had a 92 Euro F3, Malibu brought out the FIBECS CHASSIS in 92 on the Euro F3, so i'm thinking 91 would still have

wood stringers. 

Hey, so this question comes 3 years after your post, but I've got a '92 Mystere with the EuroF3 badge...after 21 years of ownership I just found my first little soft spot behind the clamshell, just beside the carpeted board covering the hatch over the rudder assembly.  So now I'm wondering about the stringers.  I've always had the idea that I had fiberglass under the carpeted marine plywood.  Do you happen to know?

 

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Eagleboy99

Wood stringers. floor etc.

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Rack
Posted (edited)

I still own my 1992 Sunsetter Euro F 3 . I have a fiber glass floor and wooden stringers. 

 The  wooden stringers are encapsulated in fiberglass and well sealed.

Prior to this I understand that the wooden floor was sealed with resin and fiber glassed into the hull. 

How can you tell if you have a fiberglass floor?

 The rear bench seat sits on a fiberglass Platform and has two storage wells Right & left,  the middle section is cut out for access to the prop shaft. 

Also under the spotters seat is an ice chest, The drivers foot well is recess and has a drain hole in it and the drivers seat sits up on a fiberglass platform

This system was one piece and installed to strengthen the hull. there is no plywood involved in this process.

The Mystere was a great looking Boat, but discontinued sometime around the time when the Echelon arrived.  It may still of had the plywood floor in 1992. 

   If your floor looks like this, then you have a fiberglass floor.

 

 

 

 

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cugrad90

Thanks, Rack...I don't have those features in my floor on my Mystere...but I'm still hoping that my stringers are fiberglassed encased.  The only soft spots are on the floor on either side of the "hatch" to the transmission.  And its just a tiny bit.  So, I'm hoping stringers are sound and the remedy is spot repair rather than replace .

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