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Wakesetter67

Looking for a good all around Wakesurf for teaching kids

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Wakesetter67

I found a Liguid force FIVER For 200.00 seams like a good deal, Anyone have this, Is 5' to big for younger kids to ride?

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wdr

I have an older 5'11" HL Land Locked I have been using for years with the beginner kids and adults and it has been been a great beginner board. The newer boards are 5'9"s from the advertising and upper 300.00 new.

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shawndoggy

phase five scamp is MONEY. It's a little more on the initial investment, but well worth it to get kids up and actually riding a board that they can control.

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klewislx

When teaching kids you have to balance flippability with float. By flippability I mean how easy is it for a kid with small feet to push down with their heels to flip the board. Float meaning the bouyancy of the board to assist with maintaining board speed once up on the wave.

My opinion is that a skim board is the best board style to teach kids on, but it needs the option for 3 fins to make it stable. When I first started teaching mine I thought more float/bouyancy would be better to help them stay on the wave. However they continually struggled to flip the board on their own. When I switched them to a skim they started flipping on their own no problem and with 3 fins the board doesnt lack speed on the wave, they often complain their back legs start to get tired, I've been adding more boat speed lately.

I have the Inland Surfer 4Skim Ooze. Best thing about it is I ride this board too. Which helps justify it's pricetag.

Go three fin setup for the kids or an adult looking for more speed out of it, or take it down to one fin and spin to win!

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wakemitch

The Ooze is very large for a kids board. The Scamp is a much better size for kids.

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klewislx

The Ooze is very large for a kids board. The Scamp is a much better size for kids.

The Scamp is 5" shorter and 0.625" narrower than the Ooze.

Don't necessarily disagree with you on the length, but width is the same.

Here are my 12 and 10 year old, they don't seem to be having any issues with the length.

I only suggested the Ooze because it can double as an adult board. Although the Ooze is twice the price, so that has to be weighed in, but it's one less board in the boat!

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shawndoggy

^^^ great pics! love seeing kids surf!

One thing those pics show, though, is that the girls are still riding that board "flat" (not driving the inside rail into the wave). the scamp almost forces kids to do that because it's so small.

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wakemitch

I've just observed many times that people learn much faster on equipment that fits right. Yeah the ooze will work, but kids can progress into tricks and get more comfortable faster on a board that fits their size. They wont have to be putting on the breaks constantly.

Even I ride a board smaller than the Ooze.

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klewislx

One thing those pics show, though, is that the girls are still riding that board "flat" (not driving the inside rail into the wave). the scamp almost forces kids to do that because it's so small.

I agree

I've just observed many times that people learn much faster on equipment that fits right. Yeah the ooze will work, but kids can progress into tricks and get more comfortable faster on a board that fits their size. They wont have to be putting on the breaks constantly.

Even I ride a board smaller than the Ooze.

Definitely agree

Both are very good points.

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isellacuras

So I was considering a scamp for my kids. Problem is that I see the scamp is rated up to 120#. My son weighs in close to 140. Any suggestions for a next size up board? He is new to surfing and has been riding my fly boy big bow which is waaaaaay to big. Daughter is a peanut and has not tried. Thinking that two more board are probably on my future. Was trying not to have to do that.

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shawndoggy

maybe the small victoria debut? it's rated 60-140 and I think mitch has said you can ride it over 140 too.

the scamp definitely gets harder to ride over 130 or so. It's plenty fast, but it's so small that you are literally standing on the nose to make it go. I rode it a couple of times @165, and it's definitely possible to ride even that big but I wouldn't want to teach someone that big on it.

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