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radnevrad

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radnevrad

Wondering if fellow crew members would chime in if they know a list of states that do not require an observer (third) in the boat while towing a rider/skier, etc? Quick search suggests KY and TX, but there must be more. Thanks

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augie09

Mo does not if boat has rear view mirror.

Think ark and ks are the same way

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RTS

No observer required in FL if you have a Convex mirror.

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jb 156

TN mirror required

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1985Skier

Minnesota spotter not required if you have a mirror

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wakesetter8796

TN mirror required

So we don't have to have an observer?

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tomas

Minnesota spotter not required if you have a mirror

Unless on Lake Minnetonka, the only lake in the state where an observer is required.

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Soon2BV

I thought TN mirror, but KY was observer

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Nitrousbird

Ohio needs an observer for sure. :(

Though I do see some evening riders that break that law. :)

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tvano

consider revising post #1 to include summary: list of states w comments?

might be good to know life jacket requirements, too.

mich: spotter required. cg approved life jacket is required to be in boat but not required on skier.

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Chicken

Alabama only requires a mirror, but it has to be a minimum of 78 square inches (which is pretty big).

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REW

NC Pg 15 operators guide

5. At any other time unless:

the vessel is equipped with a rear vision mirror, or

There is an observer in the vessel in addition to the operator, or

the person being towed wears a life preserver.

Edited by REW

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jb 156

TN you do not need an observer if you have a mirror,

So we don't have to have an observer?

Skiing is prohibited from sunset to sunrise and during inclement weather.

Vessels towing skiers must be equipped with a 170 degree, wide-angle rearview mirror or have on board a person 12 years or older, other than the operator to observe the progress of the skier.

Pulled from TWRA website

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Sunscape fan

I've only towed somebody once with no spotter. I doubt I'll do it again. Nothing happened, but I found it tough to watch the boarder and where I was going. It really isn't very safe.

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jkendallmsce

I've only towed somebody once with no spotter. I doubt I'll do it again. Nothing happened, but I found it tough to watch the boarder and where I was going. It really isn't very safe.

Clint Eastwood: A mans got to know his limitations.....

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cstk421

cg approved life jacket is required to be in boat but not required on skier.

Your saying the person being towed does NOT have to wear a jacket ? Never knew that.

Claudio

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jkendallmsce

In CA a skier MUST have on a CG approved vest UNLESS he is in a skiing compettion event...then he can wear a non CG apprioved vest...ANd in CA...the surf boards folks are standing up on and paddling, they dont have to be wearing the vest BUT they have to have one on the board.

Some states have very stupid rules...it was changed a few years ago, but in CA the observer had to be 15, while the driver could be 12...like I said that was changed a few years ago.

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GreenMan

In Australia it is mandatory to have an observer and for skiers to have a bouyancy device.

I think they are both sensible rules and would never want to do anything else.

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River Monsters

In Australia it is mandatory to have an observer and for skiers to have a bouyancy device.

I think they are both sensible rules and would never want to do anything else.

The Michigan law refers specifically to a USCG approved vest. My Ronix vest is not USCG approved and I can wear that behind the boat as a floatation device. As soon as I step onto the boat, I need to have a USCG approved floatation device available. Nobody is really going without a vest or jacket. That might be obvious, but I thought I'd point that out.

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footndale

Washington you are allowed to ski with no observer as long as you don't get caught.

Wisconsin is the same. :) Oh, and a manikin can be helpful.

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cwkoch

As was mentioned before, MN does not require a spotter. However certain counties (at least Wright county where I live and ride) requires a spotter on weekends and holidays. It's in the small print at the back of the book.... I'll just play stupid if I ever get busted. We ride without a spotter all the time. Easy to do if you have a lot of hours driving, and are used to a constant look-around to your mirror, and out front of you, and a sweep all over for idiots not paying attention. We've never really had a "close call".

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