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New2Texas

cost of perfect pass

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New2Texas

Just wanted to run this quote by everyone, hopefully you can sanity check it for me:

Perfect pass = $1195 + shipping

Labor to install = $400-500

Total = $1595 - $1695

Please note I have no tools, craftsmen skills or friends who I trust to cut a whole in my boat. This is also for the PP-WBPro version.

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McMiller

wow! if you were in ohio and had a case of beer I would do it. Come on - Can't some texan crew help out?

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duffymahoney

If you don't ride on a river, just get stargazer PP. You don't have to cut a hole and the install takes less then 1 hour last time I did it.

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New2Texas

If you don't ride on a river, just get stargazer PP. You don't have to cut a hole and the install takes less then 1 hour last time I did it.

what do you mean by "if you don't ride on a river" ?

I do BTW

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CincyVLX

what do you mean by "if you don't ride on a river" ?

I do BTW

The StarGazer is GPS driven, so if you are riding and go under a bridge, the signal is lost. If you don't ride under bridges, then this would be an option for you.

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shawndoggy

The StarGazer is GPS driven, so if you are riding and go under a bridge, the signal is lost. If you don't ride under bridges, then this would be an option for you.

It also measures speed over distance, not speed through the water (against or with current). Paddlewheel systems naturally compensate for current.

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martinarcher

what do you mean by "if you don't ride on a river" ?

I do BTW

Stargazer uses GPS speed which is speed over land, not water speed. The GPS speed is extremely accurate in regards to speed over land (river bottom). Lets say the river flows at 3 mph. You set PP Stargazer to run 20mph. When boarding downstream your speed on the water will be 17....boarding upstream will be 23 mph on the water due to the GPS not being aware of the river's flow.

The paddlewheel on PP Wakeboard Pro probably isn't as accurate, but is aware of the water flow speed and will give you 20mph water speed up or down stream.

Of course none of this applies if your riding on a lake and there is no flow.

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New2Texas

Stargazer uses GPS speed which is speed over land, not water speed. The GPS speed is extremely accurate in regards to speed over land (river bottom). Lets say the river flows at 3 mph. You set PP Stargazer to run 30mph. When boarding downstream your speed on the water will be 17....boarding upstream will be 23 mph on the water due to the GPS not being aware of the river's flow.

The paddlewheel on PP Wakeboard Pro probably isn't as accurate, but is aware of the water flow speed and will give you 20mph water speed up or down stream.

Of course none of this applies if your riding on a lake and there is no flow.

OK, so what about price comparison?

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hethj7

The price for materials seems about right. I can't comment on the labor costs, although if it is really a 1-2 hour job, then the labor seems high.

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martinarcher

It took me two evenings to put PP Wakeboard Pro on my boat and in 87' PP wasn't even a thought on the Malibu line. One evening was messing with building a bracket for the servo since I'm anal and wouldn't clamp it to the exhaust riser hose. The other evening was installing the gauge, module, running wire, and installing the paddle wheel.

If you can follow instructions you can install PP yourself. The only wiring that doesn't "plug in" is the power from the boat. The guys at PP are great for support and you've got the crew to help if you need it. If you don't think your up for it you can have the dealer install it.

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msuwaterski

Stargazer uses GPS speed which is speed over land, not water speed. The GPS speed is extremely accurate in regards to speed over land (river bottom). Lets say the river flows at 3 mph. You set PP Stargazer to run 30mph. When boarding downstream your speed on the water will be 17....boarding upstream will be 23 mph on the water due to the GPS not being aware of the river's flow.

That's some fancy Pennsylvania math right there :Tease3:

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New2Texas

The price for materials seems about right. I can't comment on the labor costs, although if it is really a 1-2 hour job, then the labor seems high.

OK, thanks everyone. My next question is which is cheaper?

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martinarcher

That's some fancy Pennsylvania math right there :Tease3:

In my defense no one in their right mind boards at 30. LOL.gif

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martinarcher

OK, so what about price comparison?

Give Perfect Pass a call. They can answer pricing questions on their sire about the Wakeboard set-up with and without a paddlewheel.

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New2Texas

Give Perfect Pass a call. They can answer pricing questions on their sire about the Wakeboard set-up with and without a paddlewheel.

will do, thanks. :thumbup:

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martinarcher

will do, thanks. :thumbup:

No problem. Good luck with your project!

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BFrank

What can you buy a Stargazer for?

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SmoothWaterMan

I don't know that PP even makes the older version.... I believe they only offer Stargazer now. And yes, they are 1195/1395, for wake/ski versions.

Peter

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martinarcher

I don't know that PP even makes the older version.... I believe they only offer Stargazer now. And yes, they are 1195/1395, for wake/ski versions.

Peter

I would guess they would sell you a paddle wheel to add to a system though if you ran a river right?

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duffymahoney

Last time I talked to Perfect pass they had a new stargazer coming out that could go between paddle wheel and gps. I haven't seen anything about it yet though.

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Murphy8166

Where is TX are you and who gave you that quote?

Have you tried Joe at WakePro Marine?

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85 Barefoot

Last time I talked to Perfect pass they had a new stargazer coming out that could go between paddle wheel and gps. I haven't seen anything about it yet though.

Current Sg will do that. just go from gps to classic.

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New2Texas

Where is TX are you and who gave you that quote?

Have you tried Joe at WakePro Marine?

Austin, Texas

Ace Marine

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CoMtnBu

check out Hydrophase Ride Steady, I little bit cheaper and they're an Austin Company.

FYI, it was 10 years ago, but I've always had amazing customer service from Perfect Pass.

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RockinRod

Go to skier to skier... Last time I looked I think the price was $1097.00

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