Intermediate Wakeboard Tricks

[TrickyNicky]

Okay guys, I can ride switch no problem, not doing wake to wakes although if I tried I could probably do it heel-side. I'm also just about to start clearing regular toe-sides. I can do a few different 180's but haven't really attempted w2w's. I can also do a backroll.

Now I know everyone is going to tell me to learn all my 180's w2w etc but sometimes I like to push progression just because. I have little to no doubt I'll be able to do w2w 180's all 8 at one point in the near furtue but right now I want some different tricks.

I'm going out wednesday and going to try and get a tantrum. Backroll took me about 7 tries, so well see how the tantrum works out. What else do you guys recommend I try and what advice do you have to do those tricks right.

As far as I'm concerned the ultimate trick is a raleigh? (superman) I just think it looks so clean and stylish when done right and I can't wait to learn it. Actually I've heard some bad things about learning it so I can't wait to KNOW how to do it. I realize that may be out of my league but I've thought about it already so I need some other tricks to distract me until I'm ready.

Thanks guys!

[Levi900RR]

I've always thought about just hucking a 360... passing the handle doesn't sound too hard???

Give that a shot.

[TrickyNicky]

I've always thought about just hucking a 360... passing the handle doesn't sound too hard???

Give that a shot.

I saw a video where the guy just does it without passing the handle and lands with his rear hand holding the handle behind his back. I haven't seen it and I can't picture it anymore. My cousin's done MANY MANY 3's but has yet to pass the handle, so I think it's harder than we may think. Tramp would help big time.

[Levi900RR]

I saw a video where the guy just does it without passing the handle and lands with his rear hand holding the handle behind his back. I haven't seen it and I can't picture it anymore. My cousin's done MANY MANY 3's but has yet to pass the handle, so I think it's harder than we may think. Tramp would help big time.

I have seen dudes hold the handle behind their back and let the rope spin them also... Passing the handle sure looks cooler!

[Wake_Addict]

I saw a video where the guy just does it without passing the handle and lands with his rear hand holding the handle behind his back. I haven't seen it and I can't picture it anymore. My cousin's done MANY MANY 3's but has yet to pass the handle, so I think it's harder than we may think. Tramp would help big time.

landing with the handle behind your back is called landing blind it can hurt if u mess up haha

[TrickyNicky]

I have seen dudes hold the handle behind their back and let the rope spin them also... Passing the handle sure looks cooler!

Didn't think of that. Still wondering which hand to hold behind your back. Back hand would seem more logical but thats my harder spin direction. front hand would be awkward but give me a more comfortable spin. It also looks cooler to do a whirly-bird but I'd have to learn a 3 and a bunch of other stuff first too. So trying it that way may be a good idea to get comfy with the spin before having to worry about the handle pass.

[TrickyNicky]

landing with the handle behind your back is called landing blind it can hurt if u mess up haha

Is it harder, easier any advice

['07VLX]

I saw a video where the guy just does it without passing the handle and lands with his rear hand holding the handle behind his back. I haven't seen it and I can't picture it anymore. My cousin's done MANY MANY 3's but has yet to pass the handle, so I think it's harder than we may think. Tramp would help big time.

I know im far from doing one on the water, but i can barely do a 5 on a trampoline w/ the rope tied to a tree. Either rapping myself up or passing the handle.

[DIE2SURF]

I went from W-2-W, to Rail Grab, to Bottom Flash (no clue what da hell that's called), to a Raley (unfortunately...the picture is on the way down). Raleys are not as hard as they look. Remember to think of your board as a kite and shove your arms straight and downward after take-off. If you gotta bail, kick-out to the side (don't try to force your board under you if you aren't gonna make it = broken ribs).

Edited July 20, 2010 by DIE2SURF

[DIE2SURF]

Simple...but looks cool, small chance for injury, and is kinda fun.

[TrickyNicky]

I went from W-2-W, to Rail Grab, to Bottom Flash (no clue what da hell that's called), to a Raley (unfortunately...the picture is on the way down). Raleys are not as hard as they look. Remember to think of your board as a kite and shove your arms straight and downward after take-off. If you gotta bail, kick-out to the side (don't try to force your board under you if you aren't gonna make it = broken ribs).

Okay...

1- Rail grab? (just a grab?)

2- Bottom Flash??? Do I want to know

3- Raley, Like the advice for arms straight down. Whjat do you mean if your going to bail 'kick out to the side'

EDIT: Like the 'bottom flash'

Edited July 20, 2010 by TrickyNicky

[wakeboy]

Raleigh, you are going to want to picture your front foot going forward and towards where you are jumping and making a circle as it kicks out behind you. So if you ride regular and jumping heelside, your left foot will start out going towards the boat as you jump, then moving in the circle to the left until it is behind you. Straighten your body out and extend legs, stomach, chest, and arms. Board will continue to move in a circle as it now is coming back to your right until it is under you. It sounds complicated but look at some video, you will see that you just don't jump and push the board straight back.

360, again assuming you are regular jumping heelside, if you are holding the handle vertically you want your right hand on the bottom and left on top. This make it natural to grab the handle. Now when you jump pull the handle to your right hip with both hands, look to your right and keep looking until you see the boat. As soon as you get the handle to your hip, release the handle with your left hand and immediatley reach behind you and grab it. The boat will spin you around and do your best to keep the board underneath you. Hardest part is making the turn over halfway and that is the most painful thing you can do, falling while only halfway around. Take 8 tries at it. I will bet by the 8th try you will at least be very close to landing at least one of them.

[TrickyNicky]

Raleigh, you are going to want to picture your front foot going forward and towards where you are jumping and making a circle as it kicks out behind you. So if you ride regular and jumping heelside, your left foot will start out going towards the boat as you jump, then moving in the circle to the left until it is behind you. Straighten your body out and extend legs, stomach, chest, and arms. Board will continue to move in a circle as it now is coming back to your right until it is under you. It sounds complicated but look at some video, you will see that you just don't jump and push the board straight back.

360, again assuming you are regular jumping heelside, if you are holding the handle vertically you want your right hand on the bottom and left on top. This make it natural to grab the handle. Now when you jump pull the handle to your right hip with both hands, look to your right and keep looking until you see the boat. As soon as you get the handle to your hip, release the handle with your left hand and immediatley reach behind you and grab it. The boat will spin you around and do your best to keep the board underneath you. Hardest part is making the turn over halfway and that is the most painful thing you can do, falling while only halfway around. Take 8 tries at it. I will bet by the 8th try you will at least be very close to landing at least one of them.

Sounds like some good advice here. BTW, I am regular.

This part isn't a typo? Should I not be looking to the left in the direction of my rotation?

[DIE2SURF]

Okay...

1- Rail grab? (just a grab?)

2- Bottom Flash??? Do I want to know

3- Raley, Like the advice for arms straight down. Whjat do you mean if your going to bail 'kick out to the side'

If you are not high enough in the air (or you hold your superman position too long) then you won't get your board down/under you quick enough to land on the bottom of your board...then your edge digs into the water...then you slap the water in a manner that can best be described as a high-speed belly flop (like from a 20' high dive)...then you hear your ribs crack...then you tell the story to the Radiologist (with itty-bitty breaths).

To avoid these events; if you know you won't get your landing under you, then swing your legs/board out to one side or the other, and take the landing on your side or side-seated postiion. You will be bruised, but not broken.

I'm not saying I'm an expert, just giving some advice. Others may have better/more precise advice.

EDIT: Like the 'bottom flash' (so do I...I'm a dork)

Edited July 20, 2010 by DIE2SURF

[jwp]

I am at the point where I want to try a raley also, and I agree that it has to be one of the coolest looking tricks. I was looking around on youtube yesterday and found this video with Shaun Murray. I thought it was very helpful, and it was just the thing I was looking for. If the link doesn't get you there just search for "27 HS Air Raley" on youtube and that should do it. Hope it helps.

[DIE2SURF]

I am at the point where I want to try a raley also, and I agree that it has to be one of the coolest looking tricks. I was looking around on youtube yesterday and found this video with Shaun Murray. I thought it was very helpful, and it was just the thing I was looking for. If the link doesn't get you there just search for "27 HS Air Raley" on youtube and that should do it. Hope it helps.

wow...that's a perfect description. It is very important to look to the back of the boat...not staring down at the water.

[TrickyNicky]

I am at the point where I want to try a raley also, and I agree that it has to be one of the coolest looking tricks. I was looking around on youtube yesterday and found this video with Shaun Murray. I thought it was very helpful, and it was just the thing I was looking for. If the link doesn't get you there just search for "27 HS Air Raley" on youtube and that should do it. Hope it helps.

Thanks for the video. I was looking on you-tube and couln't find anything, they were all cable parks. Thats a good one though.

Thanks die2surf, I understood the fallin part, I always seem to get that right, I was wondering about the 'kick ou to the side', got it now.

[wakeboy]

Sounds like some good advice here. BTW, I am regular.

This part isn't a typo? Should I not be looking to the left in the direction of my rotation?

My bad, you should be looking left. I am goofy footed, so I tried to switch what I would do around to make it easier for anyone reading it since most people are regular. I must have screwed up that part. So yes, look to the left. The rest of the directions should be correct.

I hope my directions are clear. What I would suggest is to watch some video's of pros online and it will help you make some sense of my directions. The one thing I find about wakeboarding, is giving everything about 10 tries before quitting on it for the day. If you try something ten times and never come close then you just need time to recover and think about it more. Usually I find people that try something 10 times will eventually get it or come so close that they will get it their next time out. I know it may sound optimistic but I swear by it.

[TrickyNicky]

My bad, you should be looking left. I am goofy footed, so I tried to switch what I would do around to make it easier for anyone reading it since most people are regular. I must have screwed up that part. So yes, look to the left. The rest of the directions should be correct.

I hope my directions are clear. What I would suggest is to watch some video's of pros online and it will help you make some sense of my directions. The one thing I find about wakeboarding, is giving everything about 10 tries before quitting on it for the day. If you try something ten times and never come close then you just need time to recover and think about it more. Usually I find people that try something 10 times will eventually get it or come so close that they will get it their next time out. I know it may sound optimistic but I swear by it.

Your directions were pretty clear. I'm more comfortable on my board than my trick dictionary would allow you to believe I just never had a boat worthy of learning tricks, or even riding behind. So now that I do, I;m trying to build up my trick list.

I agree with the second part. I tried a backroll 3 times, eveyrtime coming closer and closer and always coming down board first. Than I cased the wake and called it a day for wakeboarding, Next time out i gave it 4 tries and landed it. When it works it's so easy and now I easily land more than half, just had to give into the whole pop first rotate second. My buddy was in a similar situation wakeboarding for years but with no-good of a boat and I was teachin him w2w's and he was getting close but just casing eveyrtime. Took a week off thought about my instructions and came back. he cased the wake once the whole day out of a good 20 jumps.

['07VLX]

Dunno if this is what you seen but...

Raleys-

My link

[TrickyNicky]

Dunno if this is what you seen but...

Raleys-

My link

Haven't seen that but seen the idea many times. I don't have a wakeskate tho

[wakeboy]

In those pictures you can see what I am talking about. He doesn't just fling the board up behind him. He is constantly rotating. Never thought of the wake skate idea. That is awesome.

[DIE2SURF]

Chya...where was the wakeskate idea when I learned the Raley 10 years ago...woulda saved me some bruises. Luckily, I got the technique down very quickly (about 6 tries). It's amazing how little effort it is, and that you don't need to be out more than 6-7 feet from the wake (not sure I could pull off 4' like Murray).

[jwp]

I have a really old wakeboard with the sandal style bindings that I think I am going to try to use like a wakeskate for learning the superman. I am just not going to strap the sandals on. If you can round up an old board from someone you may be able to do the same. I think I want to know that I have the motion down before I try it with a board strapped on. If it would stop raining here I would try it tonight.

[TrickyNicky]

Alright guys went out lats night with a couple friends for about 2 hrs.

Got up and goofed off for a bit and than started 'trainging' my body for a tantrum take-off. I was getting a resonable pop but nothing huge. I went for it about three times. Everytime landing sort of board and face at the same time. Little sting but nothing to think about. I'm pretty sure I wasn't coming in with enough speed. I'm hesitant on the speed because you have to switch your edge and the one handed thing throws me off a bit. I'm pretty sure if i can just keep up my speed a bit more that it'll be a lot easier. Also I have to wait for the pop and stand tall balk arched instead of trying to throw it myself.

After one of my falls I got up again and went for simple 180 out as the wake was developping and just fell asleep and ate it hard. I took the board off an hopped in the boat.

Round 2, I wanted to goof off and practice all the 'simpler' stuff before I killed myself again. So I did all my rear hand grabs, btu couldn't get the one where you grab by your front foot. Also I really struggled to get any front hand grabs. Than I did the 'bottom flash', not going to lie it felt remarkably stupid but quite fun. Reminds me of a shifty on a snowboard, not difficult but looks more challenging than a grab. Did that a couple times.

Than I went to do a couple back rolls because my buddy was learning them. First one was no problem and than the second one I just ATE it. Don't know what I did, probably a bit tired but that was enough for me to call it a day.

Luckily, he's comign to the cottage this weeknd so were just going to hammer down and work on our tricks. Going to wish for 10 sets through the weekend but we'll see. My weekend goal is to get a tantrum, at least one front hand grab and maybe even a 3, still have yet to try that. Thenext weekend is a long weekend and thats goign to be my weekend of pain, The Raley weekend!

Any advice to help me stick these or new tricks to try is always welcome!

Edited July 22, 2010 by TrickyNicky