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MaddMaxx

Fuel/water separator - fuel filter

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MaddMaxx

I have a 2008 Malibu WS VLX 340 Monsoon w/ZF Hurth V-drive. My prior two I/O boats had fuel/water separators that looked like oil filter canisters. Apparently, the new boat does not have one, is that correct? Is there a fuel filter somewhere? The manual does not mention either anywhere. Thanks.

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Yes the fuel filter is in the tank where the fuel pump is. No fuel water separator necessary or possible on your motor setup.

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Bake's Marine

I have a 2008 Malibu WS VLX 340 Monsoon w/ZF Hurth V-drive. My prior two I/O boats had fuel/water separators that looked like oil filter canisters. Apparently, the new boat does not have one, is that correct? Is there a fuel filter somewhere? The manual does not mention either anywhere. Thanks.

You do not have a fuel water separator, and depending when your boat was built. It might not have a fuel filter either.

This will explain

Click this link:

http://www.bakesonline.com/images/2009/BOAT/01Engine/gen3pump.pdf

Identify whether you have a Gen2 or Gen3 fuel pump

Gen2 has a cartridge fuel filter like this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1511 and should be done annually or every 100 hours

Gen3 has this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1556 and only needs to be serviced every 3 years 300 hours (or if having fuel pressure issues)

With In-tank pumps and the high pressure fuel line (orange fuel line) you CAN NOT add a fuel water separator. The system can tolerate a minimal amount of moisture. With that said that is why Indmar is pressing so hard that people use Sta-bil (blue Marine) http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1251 at EVERY fill up. We just got done with Indmar/Malibu service training and i am putting together a list of bullet points i wanted to make sure got shared with the crew (this being one of them). Hoping to get that posted up sometime next week.

Hope this info helps out.

-Paul

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NorCaliBu
...We just got done with Indmar/Malibu service training and i am putting together a list of bullet points i wanted to make sure got shared with the crew (this being one of them). Hoping to get that posted up sometime next week.

Next week? :unsure: Where's the commitment? :unsure: The dedication? :unsure:

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You do not have a fuel water separator, and depending when your boat was built. It might not have a fuel filter either.

This will explain

Click this link:

http://www.bakesonline.com/images/2009/BOAT/01Engine/gen3pump.pdf

Identify whether you have a Gen2 or Gen3 fuel pump

Gen2 has a cartridge fuel filter like this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1511 and should be done annually or every 100 hours

Gen3 has this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1556 and only needs to be serviced every 3 years 300 hours (or if having fuel pressure issues)

With In-tank pumps and the high pressure fuel line (orange fuel line) you CAN NOT add a fuel water separator. The system can tolerate a minimal amount of moisture. With that said that is why Indmar is pressing so hard that people use Sta-bil (blue Marine) http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1251 at EVERY fill up. We just got done with Indmar/Malibu service training and i am putting together a list of bullet points i wanted to make sure got shared with the crew (this being one of them). Hoping to get that posted up sometime next week.

Hope this info helps out.

-Paul

Paul,

just out of curiosity, gen 3 looks to be returnless while gen 2 has the return. Is this correct? Just my curiosity :)

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You do not have a fuel water separator, and depending when your boat was built. It might not have a fuel filter either.

This will explain

Click this link:

http://www.bakesonline.com/images/2009/BOAT/01Engine/gen3pump.pdf

Identify whether you have a Gen2 or Gen3 fuel pump

Gen2 has a cartridge fuel filter like this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1511 and should be done annually or every 100 hours

Gen3 has this: http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1556 and only needs to be serviced every 3 years 300 hours (or if having fuel pressure issues)

With In-tank pumps and the high pressure fuel line (orange fuel line) you CAN NOT add a fuel water separator. The system can tolerate a minimal amount of moisture. With that said that is why Indmar is pressing so hard that people use Sta-bil (blue Marine) http://www.bakesonline.com/detail.aspx?ID=1251 at EVERY fill up. We just got done with Indmar/Malibu service training and i am putting together a list of bullet points i wanted to make sure got shared with the crew (this being one of them). Hoping to get that posted up sometime next week.

Hope this info helps out.

-Paul

that was an informative post. thanks.

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tvano

You do not have a fuel water separator, and depending when your boat was built. It might not have a fuel filter either.

This will explain

thanks. all of your input is appreciated but if you can provide some break points / dates it may be more helpful.

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TalleyHo

So, I've pulled the C-clip off, but how do you get the filter out? I didn't want to just grab it w/ a pair of pliers and yank, b/c bad things generally happen when I do that. Getting the c-clip off was a b**** in itself (I should really just go buy the stupid tool for that).

Anything special to make that fuel filter come out easily?

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Bake's Marine

Next week? Unsure.gif Where's the commitment? Unsure.gif The dedication? Unsure.gif

What's going on here? Dontknow.gif

Are you going home at night...and ...sleeping? Fingerwag.gif

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If i work too much i might go a littleTease.gif

Paul, just out of curiosity, gen 3 looks to be return-less while gen 2 has the return. Is this correct? Just my curiosity Smile.gif

They are both return-less, once Malibu went to in tank pump they were all return-less. Gen 2 has a separate fuel regulator where gen 3 the fuel regulator is built in with the filter.

So, I've pulled the C-clip off, but how do you get the filter out? I didn't want to just grab it w/ a pair of pliers and yank, b/c bad things generally happen when I do that. Getting the c-clip off was a b**** in itself (I should really just go buy the stupid tool for that).

Anything special to make that fuel filter come out easily?

Get a pair of snap ring pliers, with out the right tools that is really hard to change out. The fuel filter is just sitting there so you can use anything to grab on and replace it with. BE REALLY CAREFUL with O-ring seal on the lid when you re-install, you can use some petroleum jelly or something to lube up that o-ring so it seals right and doesn't get torn. I've had quite a few customers service that on their own and re-install that incorrect which led to some nasty fuel leaks.

-Paul

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