2004 Sunscape 23 LSV -- how do you use it??????

[dmoney]

I'm looking at a 2004 Sunscape 23 LSV. Pretty good price. In fact, $2,000 cheaper than a 2004 Sunscape 21 LSV similarly equipped that I've been looking at. Both have a Wedge installed. Both about 150 hrs. The 23 footer has a swing Dorsey trailer; the other a swing BoatMate trailer. I have predominately slalomed my whole life, but I'm 40 and finding that wakeboarding, wakeskating (and maybe some surfing eventually?) are a little easier on the body. I intend to keep slalom skiing, but I do like the other activities too. My soon to be 10 year old has been slalom skiing for a couple years, and my 8 year old is close. 4 year old will likely start skiing.

Anyways, who is the 23 foot Sunscape geared towards, and how do they use it?

[Roselaw1]

It is my recollection that you previously made a similar post on this forum. I did respond previously and gave you some information about my 2003 23' LSV Sunscape. As I indicated in my prior post, I think I have a boat that fits your needs.

We are a family of 4 that started out as strictly slalom skiers and then picked up wakeboarding, wakesurfing and wakeskating. My wife and I have been Slalom skiing for over 20 years and started true wakeboarding about 10 years ago (had done some wakeboarding when it was known as skurfing). Our first tournament boat was a '97 Tige 2150 direct drive. It had a great slalom wake but not so good for boarding etc. We then purchased new our 2003 Malibu Sunscape 23 LSV with a wakesetter package. It fit all our needs - good slalom wake and good wakeboard/wakeskate and wakesurf wake.

I respectfully disagree with the opinions of some of the other posters regarding the difference in size between the 23' and 21'. The 23 is not only longer, it has 102 beam vs 94" on the 21. I was out in a 2006 21' VRide a few weeks back with 8 people aboard. Although it had decent room, it was way more cramped then our 23'. It is my understanding that the 2006 Vride is the same size as the 2004 21 sunscape.

As for the wake, although I did not slalom, my wife did and in her opinion the wake on our 23 was significantly better than the 21.

We are now selling our 23 lsv to buy a 2009 Wakesetter 23 LSV with the diamond hull (i.e. same hull as on our 2003 Sunscape).

Our 23 LSV is fully loaded. Here is a list of some of the features:

375 HP HAMMERHEAD engine

240 hours

Perfect Pass Pro

Polished Skylon Swoop Tower

Skylon Defcon II Tower Spreakers

2 Skylon Batracks (for 4 boards)

1 surfboard rack (2 boards)

Depth finder/water temp/air temp/time instrument cluster

Flip-up bolster seat

Hot/cold shower

Custom stereo (JVC deck, JVC wired and wireless remotes, 12 inch powered sub, 1000 watt amp, 6 inboard speakers)

Manual WEDGE

2 port heater

4 flush mount cleats

Pop-up bow light

Stainless steel rub rail

Stainless head/docking lights

New custom towable boat cover with separate Mooring cover

Fiberglass swim platform

Matching bimini

Extreme Malibu Tandem Axle Trailer with spare tire

This boat is loaded and in pristine condition.

Always garaged. Just had its 250 hour service at a cost of almost $800 - new impeller, plugs, cap, rotar, plug wires etc. . .

We are asking $33,000 for it.

You did not give many details about the 2004 23 LSV Sunscape you are looking at but before you buy make sure you are comparing apples to apples. The Sunscapes do not come standard with towers, wedge etc. Had to order those items as the wakesetter package. Also, if you are planning on using the boat for slalom skiing (which it appears you are), I strongly recommend that it be equipped with, at the very least, the 340 Monsoon. The primary differences in the motors cannot truly be appreciated until a load is put on the boat, such as pulling up a slalom skiier. As I indicated, my wife skiied behind an 06' Vride 21' with the 320 hp motor a few weeks ago. She totally noticed the difference between getting up behind our boat with the hammerhead and the vride with the 320. By the way, my wife only weighs 115 lbs. If she noticed a difference, I can only imagine the difference for someone closer to 200 lbs.

Anyway, if you are going to be using the boat for multiple water sports (slalom, wakeboarding etc), I would highly recommend that you buy either the Sunscape or the wakesetter with the diamond hull (as opposed to the V25 Wake hull).

Call or email me at 775-846-9522 or [email protected] if you are interested in getting further information about my boat.

Here is a link to my craigslist ad: http://reno.craigslist.org/boa/1373663833.html

Edited October 1, 2009 by Roselaw1

[shawndoggy]

http://www.facebook.com/v/1193295425521

(apologies for the sound cutting out halfway through... don't know what wigged out there)

That's me surfing behind roselaw1's boat. Wedge down, no ballast other than about 800 lbs of humans all on the surf side. I'm a total newb at the watersports stuff (this vid was my third day ever wakesurfing)... but I had enough fun behind the sunscape that we went out and bought the aforementioned vride.

[RedOwl]

http://www.facebook.com/v/1193295425521

I couldn't get the video to work - is there a trick to it?

[shawndoggy]

http://www.facebook.com/v/1193295425521

I couldn't get the video to work - is there a trick to it?

Hmmm, I don't think so, but you do need adobe flash. Prolly I ought to just put it on youtube since that's sorta the standard these days.

(but this is why it would be nice to embed videos in posts )

Edited October 1, 2009 by shawndoggy

[dmoney]

http://www.facebook.com/v/1193295425521

I couldn't get the video to work - is there a trick to it?

Hmmm, I don't think so, but you do need adobe flash. Prolly I ought to just put it on youtube since that's sorta the standard these days.

(but this is why it would be nice to embed videos in posts )

pretty cool...how fast is the boat going?

[shawndoggy]

pretty cool...how fast is the boat going?

"just fast enough."

In the absence of gps perfect pass, I think it's all relative, eh? IIRC, perfect pass was set at 11.something. Which doesn't feel substantially different from the 9.something on my vride. I know mine hasn't been GPS calibrated either.

EDIT: just realized I overstated the amount of human ballast by counting myself... So really closer to just 630 lbs of humans in da boat.

Edited October 1, 2009 by shawndoggy

[Roselaw1]

Actually, the perfect pass was set at 10.7 mph. I have callibrated my perfect pass with a GPS.

Edited October 2, 2009 by Roselaw1