New Boater With Possible Used Boat Purchase Coming Up.

[TheDeed]

Hi, Names David

Im from Vancouver Canada and looking to get into boating, Specifically wakeboarding..

for the price range i thought the Malibu Vride was perfect. I came across a dealer around my area and he said " There will be a Malibu Vride 07 coming back after summer, Its a demo boat being used at a kids camp. " now remember this figure is in Canadian funds.. He's asking $49,900 for this used boat and said it is probably gunna come back with 250-300 hours already on it.

Now i don't know a whole ton about boating but that seems pretty steep, the warrenty is 3 years or 400 hours.. i don't wanna buy this boat and then the warrenty is gunna be done in 100 hours..

A new Vride up here goes for $59,900.. but down across the boarder at their Malibu dealership the base price is $40,000 US which is $42,765 Canadian.. so add some duty for bringing it across the border and don't i have a much better deal ?

Any thoughts would be much aprreciated.

- David from Canada

[wakecrashin]

Hi, Names David

Im from Vancouver Canada and looking to get into boating, Specifically wakeboarding..

for the price range i thought the Malibu Vride was perfect. I came across a dealer around my area and he said " There will be a Malibu Vride 07 coming back after summer, Its a demo boat being used at a kids camp. " now remember this figure is in Canadian funds.. He's asking $49,900 for this used boat and said it is probably gunna come back with 250-300 hours already on it.

Now i don't know a whole ton about boating but that seems pretty steep, the warrenty is 3 years or 400 hours.. i don't wanna buy this boat and then the warrenty is gunna be done in 100 hours..

A new Vride up here goes for $59,900.. but down across the boarder at their Malibu dealership the base price is $40,000 US which is $42,765 Canadian.. so add some duty for bringing it across the border and don't i have a much better deal ?

Any thoughts would be much aprreciated.

- David from Canada

What the duty tax?

[Mechmaster]

Hi, Names David

Im from Vancouver Canada and looking to get into boating, Specifically wakeboarding..

for the price range i thought the Malibu Vride was perfect. I came across a dealer around my area and he said " There will be a Malibu Vride 07 coming back after summer, Its a demo boat being used at a kids camp. " now remember this figure is in Canadian funds.. He's asking $49,900 for this used boat and said it is probably gunna come back with 250-300 hours already on it.

Now i don't know a whole ton about boating but that seems pretty steep, the warrenty is 3 years or 400 hours.. i don't wanna buy this boat and then the warrenty is gunna be done in 100 hours..

A new Vride up here goes for $59,900.. but down across the boarder at their Malibu dealership the base price is $40,000 US which is $42,765 Canadian.. so add some duty for bringing it across the border and don't i have a much better deal ?

Any thoughts would be much aprreciated.

- David from Canada

I presume you're looking at Performance Watersports in Langley and Bakes Marine in Washington? You can try Malibu Marine in Kelowna or River City Malibu in Kamloops for a price comparison.

I would go the US order route. I believe that since the Malibu is manufactured in the US, it should be exempt from duty (because of the NAFTA agreement). You would only pay GST and PST at the border, which is a wash as the Canadian dealer would charge it as well.

The Canadian dollar is strong right now. I would definitely buy from the US to save some money.

As for the used route, older VLXs have the same hull as the Vride (Sunsetter VLX 96-2000, and wakesetter VLX 98-2004). 2002-2004 Wakesetters are nearly identical to the Vride. See: http://vancouver.craigslist.org/boa/347867013.html for an example of essentially the same ride, but a lower price point.

[TheDeed]

Hi, Names David

Im from Vancouver Canada and looking to get into boating, Specifically wakeboarding..

for the price range i thought the Malibu Vride was perfect. I came across a dealer around my area and he said " There will be a Malibu Vride 07 coming back after summer, Its a demo boat being used at a kids camp. " now remember this figure is in Canadian funds.. He's asking $49,900 for this used boat and said it is probably gunna come back with 250-300 hours already on it.

Now i don't know a whole ton about boating but that seems pretty steep, the warrenty is 3 years or 400 hours.. i don't wanna buy this boat and then the warrenty is gunna be done in 100 hours..

A new Vride up here goes for $59,900.. but down across the boarder at their Malibu dealership the base price is $40,000 US which is $42,765 Canadian.. so add some duty for bringing it across the border and don't i have a much better deal ?

Any thoughts would be much aprreciated.

- David from Canada

What the duty tax?

Right now from the information i have found it seems i would just have to pay GST on everything and PST on the Trailer.. so ever after that i would still be getting a brand new boat for the price of a used one with 250-300 hours on it..

[jjackkrash]

Has the demo boat been titled? Some demo boats don't get titled when they are being used and some do. Its my understanding that if it hasn't been titled yet, then the warrenty starts from when it gets titled, in which case you would still have three years and 400 hours left when you buy the boat. At least thats what I was told by our local dealer when I was looking.

[Fly]

You may want to give Don @ Wizard Lake Marine in Alberta a call - considering you are looking for a used boat there probably isn't an issue with him selling you one out of market. I know he has a number of customers who flip boats on an annual basis.

[TheDeed]

Has the demo boat been titled? Some demo boats don't get titled when they are being used and some do. Its my understanding that if it hasn't been titled yet, then the warrenty starts from when it gets titled, in which case you would still have three years and 400 hours left when you buy the boat. At least thats what I was told by our local dealer when I was looking.

Even if that was the case, dont' you think that price is steep for a used boat...

Here is some other information.. i phoned down to a Malibu dealer in washington state and they said " we don't really like selling our boats for export and we have a dealership Claus that doesn't allow us to sell if your not a resident of washington "

ive never heard of anything like that !!. does i need to phone head quarters of Malibu boats to actaully find out what i can and can't do with importing a US made boat to Canada ?

[TheDeed]

You may want to give Don @ Wizard Lake Marine in Alberta a call - considering you are looking for a used boat there probably isn't an issue with him selling you one out of market. I know he has a number of customers who flip boats on an annual basis.

I gave him a call and they are about the same range as the Langley dealership i was talking with.. the new 07's are $59,060 CDN..

[Cbrown]

One thing I noticed is that you are pointing out the base price of 40k for a US boat but said the vride in cdn was 59k. Does that 59k include options or is that a base price as well? When you option out a vride in the us you are looking at mid to even upper 40s depending on how you option the boat. So on top of 45k US roughly 48k Cdn you are looking at taxes and the other fees that you have to pay to import the boat to Canada it may not be that big of a difference.

Also what you heard from the dealer in Washington is pretty accurate, each dealer has a territory.

[TheDeed]

One thing I noticed is that you are pointing out the base price of 40k for a US boat but said the vride in cdn was 59k. Does that 59k include options or is that a base price as well? When you option out a vride in the us you are looking at mid to even upper 40s depending on how you option the boat. So on top of 45k US roughly 48k Cdn you are looking at taxes and the other fees that you have to pay to import the boat to Canada it may not be that big of a difference.

Also what you heard from the dealer in Washington is pretty accurate, each dealer has a territory.

True but if you look at $46k Base price for importing to canada with duties. compared to $60k base price with the boat already being in canada.. that's a 14k difference..

the dealership told me they added these options to the boat..

340 HP Monsoon Engine

Fiberglass swim Step

Pull Up Cleats

Wedge

Custom Color Tower

Bow Rails

Flip Up Bolster Seat

Flush Kit

Water Cooled Shaft Seal

Pair of Wakeboard Racks (not pictured)

Bow Cover with Mooring Cover

Tandem Trailer with Pivot Hitch

[Lakenut]

Camp boat=riden hard and put up wet. I would steer clear. SOME camp personell can't drive a boat worth a crap, at least the ones I have encountered. When not towing, they know only one speed. WOT. Getting kids on and off the boat at the dock several times a day....do the math. I would expect significant wear/tear compared to coming from a private owner.

What about looking used in the states? Granted now is a sellers market, you still might find a great boat and save some $$$.

[TheDeed]

Camp boat=riden hard and put up wet. I would steer clear. SOME camp personell can't drive a boat worth a crap, at least the ones I have encountered. When not towing, they know only one speed. WOT. Getting kids on and off the boat at the dock several times a day....do the math. I would expect significant wear/tear compared to coming from a private owner.

What about looking used in the states? Granted now is a sellers market, you still might find a great boat and save some $$$.

yah that's what im thinking.. 250-300 hours in jsut the summer = ridin hard everyday.. plus the wear and tear factor for sure ! ...

im looking for some in the states just everyone loves malibu's and they keep their price pretty good and there are not tons on the market.. lol