Jump to content

Welcome to TheMalibuCrew.com
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today! For additional perks, please consider supporting this community. Click here for more information.
Photo

Newbie dummy asking about a Sunsetter.....


  • Please log in to reply
28 replies to this topic

#1
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
Hi All,

New guy here, would like to say hello and ask a question or two if you'll humor me.

I'm looking for a family-friendly Malibu for under $10K. I like the looks of the early boats (late 80's), particularly the open bow Sunsetter. I have four small children so I think I'll need the open bow to help accommodate all the little ones when out on the lake for the day messing around. The later boats (say, 1991 onwards with the different profile) don't look as good to me.

My question is, what years was this particular model made, and are there a lot of them available?

What are the main things to watch out for? I've heard that stringers de-laminate and the floor can get soft. Were the floors wood? Rot? Do stringers de-laminate from the hull or ??

Thank you to anyone that can help me figure some of this out.

#2
Steve B.

Steve B.
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,172 posts
  • Joined September 18, 2010
  • Location: Akron, Ohio
  • Boat: '95 Malibu Sunsetter
  • Boat House View Boat House
Pre-94 or 05 (?), boats had wood stringers, floor, interior parts. After that, no wood. Yes, the early years are prone to wood damage, just like other manufacturers.

You may be able to find a 95 'ish for around 10 if you look everywhere. I'd recommend it, also, they are bigger, so with the family it might be nice.

I love the look of the old Sunsetters too.

Good luck,

Steve B.

#3
james11music

james11music
  • Crew Regular
  • 161 posts
  • Joined July 11, 2009
  • Boat: 1993 Malibu Euro F3 Sunsetter

Pre-94 or 05 (?), boats had wood stringers, floor, interior parts. After that, no wood. Yes, the early years are prone to wood damage, just like other manufacturers.

You may be able to find a 95 'ish for around 10 if you look everywhere. I'd recommend it, also, they are bigger, so with the family it might be nice.

I love the look of the old Sunsetters too.

Good luck,

Steve B.

Correction. 1993 was the first year Malibu put fiberglass stringers and floors in their Sunsetters. I can vouch for this because i own a 93 sunsetter. The only wood in the boat are the seat backs and bases.

#4
tvano

tvano
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,786 posts
  • Joined April 11, 2005
  • Location: Howell, MI
  • Boat: '04 Response
  • Boat House View Boat House
check out the 'specifications' link on the 'resources' tab.
pretty good indication of which models were make during each model year.

#5
kengrutza

kengrutza
  • Crew Regular
  • 160 posts
  • Joined October 26, 2007
  • Location: Montgomery, Illinois
  • Boat: 93 Sunsetter
  • Boat House View Boat House
That was true for the Euros, I have a 93 Sunsetter and it has wood everything (I rebuilt it) 94 I believe the regular Sunsetters were all fiberglass.
Love my 93 but I hear the newer (95 and up) were a little bigger with a higher gunwale so there's a little more protection for the little ones.

#6
james11music

james11music
  • Crew Regular
  • 161 posts
  • Joined July 11, 2009
  • Boat: 1993 Malibu Euro F3 Sunsetter

That was true for the Euros, I have a 93 Sunsetter and it has wood everything (I rebuilt it) 94 I believe the regular Sunsetters were all fiberglass.
Love my 93 but I hear the newer (95 and up) were a little bigger with a higher gunwale so there's a little more protection for the little ones.

Good to know. Thanks for clarifying.

#7
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
Thank you all, very much appreciated. That's great information. I'm looking at an '89 tonight just for the heck off it - will be looking closely at the condition of the wood. If I can't find anything in that vintage with good wood I'll go looking for a '95 or later w/o the wood.

Thanks!

#8
mnhays

mnhays
  • A Decent Third
  • 393 posts
  • Joined March 13, 2012
  • Location: Saline, MI
  • Boat: 1998 Sunsetter VLX
  • Boat House View Boat House
Get a 96-99 Sunsetter, after that they evolved staying more ski boat ish IMHO, (instead of neutral [but still on the ski side]) but the sunsetter VLX's are awesome boats, GREAT for families, in 98 it was the top of Malibu! and who doesn't love an early v-drive?

#9
Nitrousbird

Nitrousbird
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,752 posts
  • Joined July 31, 2011
  • Location: Powell, Ohio
  • Boat: 2001 Sunsetter VLX LS1
  • Boat House View Boat House
You should be able to find a 96+ Sunsetter DD for 10k. Might have to look and negotiate some to get to that point. Take your time and find the right boat.

#10
inlandlaker

inlandlaker
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,401 posts
  • Joined July 07, 2009
  • Location: Brighton, MI
  • Boat: 1997 Sunsetter LX
  • Boat House View Boat House
I can say, as an owner of a 97 Sunsetter LX, that it's a great all around boat. You could find one for around $10k with some good negotiations, but at that price point, you should expect some things would need attention however it should run well and have little to no mechanical problems.


Good luck and keep us posted.

#11
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
Thank you guys. Well, I did exactly what you're NOT supposed to do.....I went and bought the first Malibu I saw!

Unfortunately, there just aren't any early open bow Malibus anywhere near me in Seattle. And, with the scant few days of summer ticking away that we get here in Seattle (plus it's SeaFair weekend this weekend!), I bought a standard (non-open bow) 1989 Malibu Skier for $5,750. The wood in the boat is in excellent condition, it's always been stored indoors or on a covered lift on the lake (and it shows), good upholstery, white/blue, the engine (chev 350) runs great (400 hrs) and she has the borg warner drive. A bit grubby but some cleaning and polishing in the driveway will correct that.

It always suprises me when somebody is selling a boat or a car and they don't bother to even give it a wash and a vacuum out before people come looking.

I'm excited to get out on the water with the kids. I know what I'm doing with boats having been around both power and sail since I was a boy so not too worried about operating the boat. I am a little concerned about how in the hell I'm going to teach my wife to drive the thing properly while I'm out on the end of the ski rope....

Thank you all.

ps. how do I insert a .jpg pic file in here so I can show her off?

Edited by CliffB, August 03, 2012 - 09:46 PM.


#12
Nitrousbird

Nitrousbird
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,752 posts
  • Joined July 31, 2011
  • Location: Powell, Ohio
  • Boat: 2001 Sunsetter VLX LS1
  • Boat House View Boat House

ps. how do I insert a .jpg pic file in here so I can show her off?

Either become a paid member (well worth the money in discounts with vendors) or use an image hosting side and use the img tags to post it.

#13
inlandlaker

inlandlaker
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,401 posts
  • Joined July 07, 2009
  • Location: Brighton, MI
  • Boat: 1997 Sunsetter LX
  • Boat House View Boat House
The wife thing will take some time. Good luck and congrats on the purchase.

#14
Levi900RR

Levi900RR
  • Seeking A Life
  • 2,708 posts
  • Joined August 23, 2008
  • Location: Colchester VT
  • Boat: Deposit on a 2003 21 LSV
  • Boat House View Boat House
Can't wait to see it. Congrats

#15
mnhays

mnhays
  • A Decent Third
  • 393 posts
  • Joined March 13, 2012
  • Location: Saline, MI
  • Boat: 1998 Sunsetter VLX
  • Boat House View Boat House
Awesome, those boats are always a joy to see on the forums with what their members do with them! Congratulations on the new BU! :werule:

#16
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
Thank you gents. Have to give a quick update here.

The '89 Malibu I had a deal on....fell through. On a handshake, the owner and I agreed on $5,750 one evening after a ride and a bit of negotiating. It got somewhat late in the eve by then so there wasn't time to get the boat out and onto the trailer. We agreed to meet up at 10:30 the next morning to get the boat loaded up and get him paid. At 10am I call him to confirm timing at which point he says the price isn't $5,750, it's now $6,500. Huh?

Who does that? The guy was kind of drunk I think when I was there the evening before with my kids, but we very clearly negotiated and agreed on the $5,750 price. What a nut.

Sooooooo, I went and checked out a different 'Bu ('88) closer to me in Seattle and it's a gem. The stringers look very solid and the floors are solid. The gel coat isn't faded or oxidized, engine looks clean and has had maintenance, red/grey, 529 hours. We agreed on a price of $6,000 and I picked her up tonight with my kids (boy, were they excited!). She needs some cleaning but overall she's in very good condition. Trailer is good, even came with a ski rope and an very nice tube. A little bit of upholstery work to do but not bad. A few evenings of cleaning her up in the driveway and we'll be on the water. Probably change the belts and impeller for the heck of it.

Heck of a lot of boat (and fun) for the money!

Edited by CliffB, August 06, 2012 - 04:16 PM.


#17
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
pic

Attached Files



#18
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
pic

Attached Files



#19
CliffB

CliffB
  • Deck Hand
  • 241 posts
  • Joined August 02, 2012
  • Location: Seattle, Washington
  • Boat: 1989 Malibu Skier
Added a Momo steering wheel in place of the nasty old wheel. The old (Malibu) wheel looked like something out of a 70's dune buggy left out in a field for 10 years.

Attached Files



#20
jk13

jk13
  • Crew Devotee
  • 1,406 posts
  • Joined November 23, 2009
  • Location: Central WI
  • Boat: 1994 Echelon LX
  • Boat House View Boat House

Added a Momo steering wheel in place of the nasty old wheel. The old (Malibu) wheel looked like something out of a 70's dune buggy left out in a field for 10 years.


But how do you steer the Alfa?


Seriously, nice boat. You should enjoy that one for sure.